What is everyone's gut feeling on 2012?

[3D Sunset]

The naming of densities, and not the naming of octaves, causes me to consider that Densities are the major, and that Octaves are the minor, and that the numbering of the former is where my attention is drawn as evidence of same? But again, the fact that Ra mixes definitions helps little in untangling this conundrum, as both are cited in varying usage.

Sorry my friend, but try as I might, I just can't bend my mind enough to even visualize that. I believe that Ra doesn't name the Great Octaves for two reasons.

First and foremost, this Octave is the only one of which he has any direct experience. The prior and subsequent Octaves are, as he says several times, simply a mystery. So what would be the purpose in the naming? (Another point to bear in mind is that Ra probably only names the Densities which comprise this Octave out of deference to our 3D predilection to name things.) Ra has total recall of all of his experiences within this Octave, and a good understanding of what awaits him in his next Density, but he has little more than hints, rumors, and innuendo about previous and subsequent Octaves, so he has no real concept as to how to "name" them for those of us in 3D that like names so much.

Secondly, I think that Ra doesn't dwell on other Octaves of experience because they have no direct effect on our Octave, expect as far as what was harvested from the prior Octave(s), and possibly what little interaction we may have with the Guardians who, as I stated earlier, appear to exist in the 8th Density of this Octave which is the First Density of the next Octave (personally, I find this a much more interesting topic, but what of that). Ra does discuss what little he knows about prior octaves in Book IV. Note that here he describes the beginning of this Octave as "the beginning of this creation":

Questioner: I realize that we are on very difficult ground, you might say, for precise terminology. It is totally displaced from our system of coordinates for evaluation in our present system of language. These early Logoi that formed in the center of the galaxy wished, I assume, to create a system of experience for the one Creator. Did they then start with no previous experience or information about how to do this? This is difficult to ask.

Ra: I am Ra. At the beginning of this creation or, as you may call it, octave there were those things known which were the harvest of the preceding octave. About the preceding creation, we know as little as we do of the octave to come. However, we are aware of those pieces of gathered concept which were the tools which the Creator had in the knowing of the self.

These tools were of three kinds. Firstly, there was an awareness of the efficiency for experience of mind, body, and spirit. Secondly, there was an awareness of the most efficacious nature or, if you will, significator of mind, body, and spirit. Thirdly, there was the awareness of two aspects of mind, of body, and of spirit that the significator could use to balance all catalyst. You may call these two the matrix and the potentiator.

Interestingly, we do learn that apparently it was in this Octave (or creation... I'm starting to like that name better) that the concepts of STO and STS were first born, but the concept of 7 densities within an Octave does appear to be eternal (so much, it seems, for the septave and dodecave, my friend).

Questioner: Then we have, at the beginning of this galactic evolution, an archetypical mind that is the product of the previous octave which this galaxy then used as and acts upon under the first distortion so as to allow for what we experience as polarity. Was there any concept of polarity carried through from the previous octave in the sense of service-to-others or service-to-self polarity?

Ra: I am Ra. There was polarity in the sense of the mover and the moved. There was no polarity in the sense of service-to-self and service-to-others.

Questioner: Then the first experiences, as you say, were in monochrome. Was the concept of the seven densities of vibration with the evolutionary process taking place in discrete densities carried through from the previous octave?

Ra: I am Ra. To the limits of our knowledge, which are narrow, the ways of the octave are without time; that is, there are seven densities in each creation infinitely.

So again, I'm sorry to have failed you, my friend, but I cannot fathom any way, in my admittedly infinitesimally limited imagination, that Densities are in even some small aspect "major" hierarchically to Great Octaves or Creations. Not that this is of an particular import though, because within this Creation, the Densities are clearly the great measure of spiritual evolution and advancement to which me must attune ourselves. I remain however, eager to readily concede that Densities are composed of 8 sub-densities, which Ra does call octaves, which are further sub-divided into octaves and so on ad-infinitum. I also agree that Earth itself is (as well as most if not all of its harvestable inhabitants) clearly in the last octave of 3D, which is the first octave of 4D.

Your mentally exhausted and severely imaginatively challenged friend,

3D Sunset