(03-23-2009, 04:45 PM)Quantum Wrote: Actually, to be fair and in keeping with the lecture and teach/learning, there would be 6 or 12 octaves, or septaves vs dodecaves per density verses the 6-12 densities per octave. Being the impatient sort that I am, I like the 6 densities better than the 12 as an analogy. Now tell me in this new breath of the 6 densities that the sun revolves around the central sun in only 2,000 years to make for a quicker graduation.
This, I think, is the crux of our divergence. For to me, Ra's primary meaning of Octave is the sum of all of our densities. Beyond this Octave, exists another full Octave of densities. This is what I mean by the "Octave". The secondary meaning of octave used by Ra, is the division of Densities into sub-densities and sub-sub-densities. Thus all are octaves, and our seven densities gather together to form an Octave of which we are, appropriately, in the "Me" stage (i.e., 3rd Density). Here are but a handful of quotes which support my assertion:
Ra Book I, Session 7 Wrote:Questioner: I’m trying to understand how a group such as the Orion group would progress. How it would be possible, if you were in the Orion group, and pointed toward self-service, to progress from our third density to the fourth. What learning would be necessary for that?
Ra: I am Ra. This is the last question of length for this instrument at this time.
You will recall that we went into some detail as to how those not oriented towards seeking service for others yet, nevertheless, found and could use the gateway to intelligent infinity. This is true at all densities in our octave. We cannot speak for those above us, as you would say, in the next quantum or octave of beingness.
Ra Book I, Session 16 Wrote:Questioner: Could you define the word density as we have been using it?
Ra: I am Ra. The term density is a, what you call, mathematical one. The closest analogy is that of music, whereby after seven notes on your western type of scale, if you will, the eighth note begins a new octave. Within your great octave of existence which we share with you, there are seven octaves or densities. Within each density there are seven sub-densities. Within each sub-density, are seven sub-sub-densities. Within each sub-sub-density, seven sub-sub-sub-densities and so on infinitely.
So we share this Octave with Ra, and this Octave is made up of 7 octaves, or densities. Within each density are 7 sub-densities, which he later refers to as sub-octaves, which we see here:
Ra Book I, Session 17 Wrote:Ra: I am Ra. I have made an error. The fourth-density being is that which we intended to say, the highest level of fourth density going into the fifth. This entity could have gone on to the fifth but chose instead to return to third for this particular mission. This entity was of the highest sub-octave of the vibration of love. This is fourth density.
By this definition, those that are now ready to graduate to 4th density are in the highest sub-octave of the third density, which by the way is the same as the first sub-octave of 4th density. This is also consistent with this quote:
Ra Book I, Session 22 Wrote:Questioner: Did all of these entities then decide to stay and help during the next 25,000 year cycle?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. As a group they stayed. There were those peripherally associated with this culture which did not stay. However, they were not able to be harvested either and so, beginning at the very highest, shall we say, of the sub-octaves of third density, repeated this density. Many of those who have been of the loving nature are not Wanderers but those of this particular origin of second cycle.
Given this context, look now at the quote:
Ra, Book II, Session 28 Wrote:Questioner: I am assuming that there are eight densities created when this major galaxy was created. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is basically correct. However, it is well to perceive that the eighth density functions also as the beginning density or first density, in its latter stages, of the next octave of densities.
Questioner: Are you saying then that there are an infinite number of octaves of densities one through eight?
Ra: I am Ra. We wish to establish that we are truly humble messengers of the Law of One. We can speak to you of our experiences and our understandings and teach/learn in limited ways. However, we cannot speak in firm knowledge of all the creations. We know only that they are infinite. We assume an infinite number of octaves.
Ra cannot speak of the next Octave of Densities above the Octave that we have in common with Ra.
Ra, Book II, Session 48 Wrote:Questioner: Could you tell me how the various bodies, red through violet, are linked to the energy centers, red through violet? Are they linked in some way?
Ra: I am Ra. This shall be the last full query of this working. As we have noted, each of the true color densities has the seven energy centers and each entity contains all this in potentiation. The activation, while in yellow-ray, of violet-ray intelligent infinity is a passport to the next octave of experience. There are adepts who have penetrated many, many of the energy centers and several of the true colors. This must be done with utmost care while in the physical body for as we noted when speaking of the dangers of linking red/orange/yellow circuitry with true color blue circuitry the potential for disarrangement of the mind/body/spirit complex is great.
However, the entity who penetrates intelligent infinity is basically capable of walking the universe with unfettered tread.
I find this a particularly fascinating, if ambiguous quote. Is Ra here referring to 4th Density, or the next great "Octave" which transcends even the one that we share with him?
Okay so you get my point. I believe that you have been calling the octave is, in reality, a sub-octave of the densities (which, BTW, he does occasionally call octaves as well). But I believe that the true meaning of Octave is the set of all densities, 1-7 which are then repeated after entities merge, through a black hole into eighth density, and graduate to the next higher Octave.
This, as they say, is my story, and I'm sticking to it, fine friend.
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