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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Strictly Law of One Material Archetypes of Mind, Body, & Spirit Book IV Study Group

    Thread: Book IV Study Group


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    08-24-2010, 02:06 PM (This post was last modified: 08-26-2010, 03:57 PM by 3D Sunset.)
    (08-23-2010, 09:28 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: But wait, if the female is the mover, shouldn't she be standing? I thought you were associating the seated position with being passive and waiting.

    To me, the female (mover) is quiescent except through her attention. She is the "mover" because she beckons the one to be moved with her charm and allure. It is through her attraction and attention that the male (moved) is motivated to take action.

    The other way of looking at them is as the moving man vs furniture. The moving man is the "mover", the furniture is the "moved". The problem I have with this view is that it makes one of the parties inanimate. I think both are active, one mentally (mover), the other physically (moved).

    (08-23-2010, 09:28 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: Could the question of relative power be relevant to the negative path? It seems like on the positive path they'd have to be equal.

    Recall that the cards represent both polarities and more importantly relate the characteristics of the archetype to familiar, 3D roles and experiences. Are not positions of power and powerful people familiar characteristics to us all? That is why I like your observation, it adds another dimension to my understanding of the cards. As such, I think it is perfectly appropriate to view the relative power represented by aspects of each archetype as an aid in explicating them.

    (08-23-2010, 09:28 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: I went back and re-read but only saw where Ra said that the females were immobile, not the male. "In this image of Transformation of Mind, then, each of the females points the way it would go, but is not able to move, nor are the two female entities striving to do so. They are at rest. The conscious entity holds both and will turn itself one way or the other or, potentially, backwards and forwards, rocking first one way then the other and not achieving the transformation. In order for the Transformation of Mind to occur, one principle governing the use of the deep mind must be abandoned." That sounds like the male will turn himself.

    In the drawing, the male's feet are flat on the ground (just as are the females), which indicated to me his immobility . This is why I was looking for an external source for the impetus to move.

    If I suppose for a moment though, that the male is able to move independent of an external source, then would it perhaps be his free will that causes the movement? This is consistent with the concept of turning one way and then the other, and also relates back to the Fool who blindly wanders where angles fear to tread.

    Let us try then to tie this together in a tentative thread through the archetypal mind. The Great Way chooses environments, which, based upon the past free will choices, have produced polarizing experiences. Until the Transformation abandons one path for the other, however (initially through Foolish choices, but later based upon past experience), the Great Way cannot optimize environments based upon a preferred type of fruit.

    Once an environment is selected, then the root of the mind through the Transformation selects how it will be manipulated (positively or negatively). This then colors how the experience is presented to the Significator, and the rest flows as stated earlier.

    Although I am sure Ra is shaking his head and laughing right now, this does at least attempt to tie together the first seven with the Fool to form an "evolution model" for the mind.

    What do you think?

    (08-23-2010, 09:28 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: Me, too. By the way, the tarot study guide on lawofone.info is helpful in that it shows the images in the order that Ra suggested: one, eight, fifteen, etc. and then one and two, three and four, etc. http://www.lawofone.info/pdfs/study-guid...etypes.pdf

    Thanks, I will refer to it. Thanks also for all the excellent effort you have put into making the Law of One more accessible to its students.

    Love and Light,

    3D Sunset

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    Book IV Study Group - by Monica - 01-08-2009, 12:13 AM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by bring4th_steve - 01-08-2009, 01:26 AM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by Monica - 01-08-2009, 01:35 AM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by bring4th_steve - 01-08-2009, 02:30 AM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by Enki - 01-08-2009, 02:36 AM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by bring4th_steve - 01-08-2009, 02:48 AM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by Enki - 01-08-2009, 03:01 AM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by bring4th_steve - 01-08-2009, 08:00 PM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by rva_jeremy - 01-09-2009, 09:13 PM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by bring4th_steve - 01-10-2009, 01:41 AM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by Chela - 01-10-2009, 11:42 AM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by BrotherAsa - 01-11-2009, 03:16 PM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by 3D Sunset - 01-12-2009, 12:46 PM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by βαθμιαίος - 01-12-2009, 05:57 PM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by sos - 01-15-2009, 07:04 PM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by βαθμιαίος - 01-16-2009, 08:50 AM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by Monica - 01-16-2009, 06:01 PM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by Richard - 01-16-2009, 09:30 PM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by otherself-jesse - 04-23-2010, 04:08 PM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by βαθμιαίος - 04-23-2010, 04:47 PM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by artichoke - 01-19-2009, 02:15 AM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by ChakRAmon - 01-20-2009, 05:34 PM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by Monica - 01-21-2009, 02:18 AM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by artichoke - 01-21-2009, 12:15 AM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by paddy - 09-22-2009, 02:27 AM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by ChakRAmon - 09-30-2009, 04:31 PM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by Brad N - 03-16-2010, 12:50 AM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by Eddie - 03-16-2010, 07:17 AM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by Cyclops - 03-16-2010, 03:08 PM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by thefool - 03-21-2010, 10:06 PM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by glenng - 03-23-2010, 06:00 PM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by Phoenix - 03-31-2010, 07:22 PM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by unity100 - 06-23-2010, 03:25 AM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by Monica - 06-23-2010, 01:26 PM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by unity100 - 06-23-2010, 01:35 PM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by Monica - 06-27-2010, 08:28 PM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by Cyclops - 06-27-2010, 11:27 PM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by unity100 - 06-28-2010, 05:17 AM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by Monica - 08-04-2010, 10:20 PM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by βαθμιαίος - 08-04-2010, 11:09 PM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by unity100 - 08-05-2010, 03:40 AM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by abstrktion - 04-03-2012, 12:22 PM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by βαθμιαίος - 08-05-2010, 10:51 AM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by unity100 - 08-05-2010, 11:16 AM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by βαθμιαίος - 08-05-2010, 11:18 AM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by βαθμιαίος - 08-06-2010, 03:14 PM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by unity100 - 08-06-2010, 03:20 PM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by unity100 - 08-07-2010, 09:38 AM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by βαθμιαίος - 08-08-2010, 12:05 AM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by unity100 - 08-08-2010, 03:22 AM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by Peregrinus - 08-08-2010, 01:02 AM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by βαθμιαίος - 08-08-2010, 10:00 PM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by unity100 - 08-09-2010, 07:36 AM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by 3D Sunset - 08-09-2010, 10:52 AM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by unity100 - 08-09-2010, 11:15 AM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by 3D Sunset - 08-09-2010, 11:36 AM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by unity100 - 08-09-2010, 01:06 PM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by Peregrinus - 08-09-2010, 02:38 PM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by unity100 - 08-09-2010, 03:01 PM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by βαθμιαίος - 08-09-2010, 09:19 PM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by Monica - 09-16-2010, 01:19 AM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by unity100 - 08-10-2010, 06:42 AM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by unity100 - 08-11-2010, 11:36 AM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by βαθμιαίος - 08-12-2010, 09:56 PM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by unity100 - 08-17-2010, 10:16 AM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by AnthroHeart - 09-14-2010, 03:02 PM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by ricdaw - 09-20-2010, 07:52 PM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by AnthroHeart - 09-21-2010, 05:23 PM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by ricdaw - 09-21-2010, 05:44 PM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by abstrktion - 04-03-2012, 12:56 AM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by Diana - 04-03-2012, 01:24 AM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by JustLikeYou - 04-03-2012, 07:53 AM
    RE: Book IV Study Group - by Diana - 04-03-2012, 03:14 PM

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