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    Thread: Meditation habits and tips


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    06-17-2015, 07:05 PM
    (06-17-2015, 05:01 PM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (06-17-2015, 04:42 PM)Lighthead Wrote:
    (06-17-2015, 04:37 PM)Minyatur Wrote:
    (06-17-2015, 03:41 PM)Tan.rar Wrote: Depends how present you are.

    I'm not so good that I can keep a trance when there's a friend lifting my arms endlessly, trying to roll on my legs and putting his nose in my face. 

    It was fun though, being on the ground is like having a flashing pannel saying disturb me to a dog.  BigSmile

    I sometimes feel that we have to appreciate our varying states of mind for what they are, no matter how different. For example, anxiety may be tons different than a calm, meditative state, but there's still something unique about it that the Creator no doubt thought was important enough to inject into 3D awareness.

    I do agree fully, although anxiety is the worst exemple in my case. I've been much more trying to relativise other's anxiety to diminish it than experiencing it myself. I'm the god of carelessness, although I'm trying to adapt to a world with non-carefree people that take everything seriously as to not hurt anyone unawarely anymore...

    I've been someone shut down emotionally for close to all this incarnation (with the exception of one person that could generate very strong emotions in the extremes in me). Two weeks ago by doing psychedelic trips, I've explored feeling very depressed and a sincere wish to die or rather to stop being, as if my soul was a cancer within me. During the whole trip with a friend I felt like that and afterward I would just lie in bed and explore the emotion for hours straight without trying to change it. Of course this is a particular case, I feel this happened because I've wondered how a singer I love felt as he was heavily alcoholic and depressive. I felt like I've experienced a window to that state. I was grateful for the experience and I think it could be related to meditation or rather contemplation of that state of mind.

    During the experience which was a part of my on-going awakening process, I've thought whole heartly this was the real state of my soul, when I accepted it as part of myself it faded away and I've instead explored much more joyful emotions and other also less joyful. These trips made me realise I had no idea about the intensity that emotions can have and also their beauty.

    Lately I've been doing quite a lot of exploration and contemplation of many kind of emotions through the use of drugs, and now I'm trying to re-create the process while sober. My unveiled self seems like a flux of amplified emotions beyond my wildest imagination, and god... did I it beaitufil through a window unto it. I could burst into tears having my heart broken from sympathy for another' sorrow and an instant later I would think the previous emotion was the most beautiful thing I've ever felt.

    This is kind of where I want to go with meditation, to open myself to any kind of emotion and to make them a part of myself fully. It makes me realise that I was a very empty man, it makes me realise how dull my life was.

    I do agree that anxiety is like the worst-case scenario. I was just throwing that one out there to show that any state of mind can be viewed objectively and doesn't necessarily have to be "horrible."

    I see what you're saying about your psychedelic trips. They pretty much gave you a window into something really deep about the human experience. I think that you can achieve those states with meditation, but even if you do, you have to be careful of not becoming too attached to those types of experiences. Even if it is a blissed out experience, you have to remember to always try to go one step beyond that state of mind. The worst-case scenario is that you can end up on some type of blissed out world (I'm not sure if that's even possible; Ra didn't make mention of that) where you're not achieving anything spiritual. That's possible within the framework of Buddhist cosmology, but like I mentioned in the parenthetical comment, I'm not sure if that's possible within the octave framework that Ra elucidated. But the bottom line is that you have to meditate and learn to work spiritually with your catalyst.

    I for one have tried to fool myself into thinking that I can contemplate my way out of meditation, but I wasn't even setting aside time to contemplate about anything. So if I'm going to set aside time to contemplate, why not just go all the way and set aside time to meditate? It costs the same amount of money, but holds more value in the long run. Or at the very least, it helps you to more effectively go forward with your self-realization. I think that contemplation is good at helping you assimilate something spiritual that you're reading, for example.

    So now you know what's possible, the next step is just to meditate.
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    Meditation habits and tips - by Night Owl - 06-15-2015, 04:50 PM
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