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    Thread: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis


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    06-15-2015, 11:51 AM
    (06-15-2015, 09:01 AM)Jeremy Wrote: So I've been pondering this ever since the whole Bruce Jenner fiasco and I've come to a couple theories as to why someone would have such catalytic thoughts. This isn't about whether it's right or wrong since we hopefully can accept that the decision was his on the matter and hopefully can be respected. 

    With that said,  there are a couple ways I keep going in my mind. 

    First is from a psychological/biological standpoint. Biologically speaking,  it goes against all natural laws of evolution to mutilate the body so that it can't reproduce.  For all intents and purposes on a 2D level,  animals exist to proliferate. Now psychologically speaking,  to have feelings of being trapped in a different body than the Mind recognizes speaks of a serious internal crisis. Whether due to some underlying emotional trauma where one thinks a fresh start would be the answer or maybe that they were somehow influenced to consider themselves something they are not,  it's a very deep seated psychological issue that I'm confused about. Bruce Jenner for instance,  sometimes referred to himself in third person and also realized that there was still a Bruce and Caitlyn which almost speaks of multiple personalities. So I really wonder how mentally stable he is. 

    The next way I'm going is spiritually. With more and more people coming out to such,  I wonder whether it's because it's more socially acceptable or that the veil is thinning so much,  people are getting previous lives crosswired into their current incarnation. I know from destiny and journey of Souls,  the homosexual orientation can be explained by being the opposite sex in a previous life that they were having onto yet didn't realize it so I wonder if transgender is the same. 

    I wonder how well people with gender identity confusion could benefit from a regression session to find the cause because from a biological standpoint,  there's no logical reason for such mutilation so it has to reside within the mind. I also wonder if maybe someone set this up preincarnationally to experience being discriminated against or some intense lesson in acceptance. 

    In any case,  it's a seriously intense thing to think about as its such a drastic catalyst for someone to be so confused that they resort to such acts. To me,  it sounds as if they are trying to fix internal issues with external corrections but I definitely entertain the notion that internally,  there is something there that we just cannot fathom on a spiritual level. 

    What say you dear friends?

    Firstly, many years ago, I lived in a share-house with a women who became Australia's first female to male transgender person (in terms of the first to make the transition medically/cosmetically/legally.)

    Nevertheless I have no authority to speak to this issue. I am not transgender.

    Just as I can not speak for others lives/experiences (ie: as a middle class caucasion woman I can't speak to the life experience for a working class aboriginal man; I can't speak for Caitlyn . And Caitlyn can only speak for her own unique experience of transgender. My friend who transitioned to male can't speak for another female to male... let alone male to female.. it's really best we read the thoughts and ideas of the people themselves.

    I do think it's okay to have a generalised (private) stream of thoughts about the possible reasons for a trans incarnation set-up... but a whole bunch of non trans here talking it through... I'm not comfortable with that... just as I wouldn't be comfortable with discussing black issues here with primarily non black people... (etc)

    I recommend you do as much reading as possible on this and can provide you with many useful sources to help your understanding' if you like Smile

    NB:

    Gender reassignment is NOT a "mutilation".. particularly not for the person who feels completely physically wrong with their original body/gender.

    Using the term "fiasco" is judgemental.

    Insinuating that Jenner may have mental instability ("So I really wonder how mentally stable he is.") and that being said as a pejorative, is disrespectful both for trans people and for people with actual mental health issues.

    Referring to a person who has now asked to be considered and spoken of as "she" and called by their new (female) name.. but still using "he" and the old male name.. is considered disrespectful and insensitive.

    As to coming to "a couple of theories"... as I said: it's better to ask transgender people - even better to read up on the whole area listening to their perspectives and theories.. than to formulate your own ideas separate from the people experiencing this and/or asking (presumably) a forum of non trans people for our thoughts...
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    Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Jeremy - 06-15-2015, 09:01 AM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Spaced - 06-15-2015, 09:32 AM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Jeremy - 06-15-2015, 10:06 AM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by native - 06-15-2015, 11:34 AM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Splash - 06-15-2015, 11:51 AM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Jeremy - 06-15-2015, 12:00 PM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Splash - 06-15-2015, 01:06 PM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Jeremy - 06-15-2015, 01:14 PM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by βαθμιαίος - 06-15-2015, 12:04 PM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Splash - 06-16-2015, 08:48 AM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Monica - 06-20-2015, 06:13 PM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Jeremy - 06-15-2015, 12:08 PM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Minyatur - 06-15-2015, 12:11 PM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Jeremy - 06-15-2015, 12:16 PM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Minyatur - 06-15-2015, 12:19 PM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by βαθμιαίος - 06-15-2015, 12:34 PM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Jeremy - 06-15-2015, 01:01 PM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by native - 06-15-2015, 12:40 PM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Jeremy - 06-15-2015, 12:51 PM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by native - 06-15-2015, 01:00 PM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by βαθμιαίος - 06-15-2015, 01:07 PM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Reaper - 06-16-2015, 02:46 AM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Bluebell - 06-16-2015, 07:29 AM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Reaper - 06-16-2015, 01:08 PM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Billy - 06-16-2015, 05:23 AM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Splash - 06-16-2015, 08:38 AM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Jeremy - 06-16-2015, 10:42 AM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Shawnna - 06-18-2015, 01:00 AM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Jeremy - 06-18-2015, 07:19 AM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Billy - 06-17-2015, 02:33 AM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Bluebell - 06-16-2015, 06:17 AM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Bluebell - 06-16-2015, 06:21 AM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Jeremy - 06-16-2015, 07:04 AM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Bluebell - 06-16-2015, 07:43 AM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Bluebell - 06-16-2015, 09:22 AM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by outerheaven - 06-16-2015, 12:54 PM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Bluebell - 06-16-2015, 11:44 PM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Minyatur - 06-17-2015, 11:59 AM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Bring4th_Moderator - 06-17-2015, 02:59 PM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Lighthead - 06-17-2015, 04:00 PM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Minyatur - 06-18-2015, 03:29 AM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Spaced - 06-18-2015, 09:08 AM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Jeremy - 06-18-2015, 09:28 AM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Splash - 06-18-2015, 12:12 PM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Jeremy - 06-18-2015, 12:42 PM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Billy - 06-19-2015, 12:36 AM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Shawnna - 06-19-2015, 12:54 AM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Splash - 06-19-2015, 01:53 AM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Billy - 06-19-2015, 04:36 AM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Splash - 06-19-2015, 07:51 AM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Shawnna - 06-19-2015, 10:58 PM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Monica - 06-20-2015, 05:58 PM
    RE: Spiritual implications/reasons for gender identity crisis - by Splash - 07-07-2015, 04:46 AM

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