08-20-2010, 04:08 AM
(08-19-2010, 10:31 PM)βαθμιαίος Wrote: Yes. The concept is straight from Ra.
(08-17-2010, 07:28 AM)unity100 Wrote: 'you' cant choose to limit yourself to finity. because, if there is something that can be called 'me' , and any kind of choice that it can make, that means that that thing was not infinite from the start, but, finite.
Right. That's why Ra calls it an illusion. You can only seem to be finite; really you're the Creator which is all that there is.
ra says infinite intelligence is without distortion, yet, we can contemplate that being 'intelligent' infinity has the distortion of being intelligent in the first place.
one should remember that Ra doesnt want to be remembered as bringers of unchanging dogma.
Quote:I'm not saying the illusion isn't part of infinity. We are still part of the infinite Creator, even as we investigate finity.
yes, and 'being part of' and 'being' are two different things. an icing on the cake is still part of the cake, but, it isnt the cake in its entirety.
Quote:(08-17-2010, 07:28 AM)unity100 Wrote: second, the existence we know goes in octaves. so, there was an octave prior to this, and an octave after this, and according to what Ra says, infinite octaves. that means, manifestation in these octaves continue in the 'illusory' form as you dub it, towards infinity. so, there are infinite octaves going on in an 'illusory' manifestation. ie, the entities in the next octave, in its 2nd density, will still be limited in their 'illusion' according to their octave's rules and nature.
Right.
the point here is, entities spent infinite time in the state of finiteness, through infinite octaves. that means finity as much a reality of existence, as infinity.
Quote:(08-17-2010, 07:28 AM)unity100 Wrote: infinity is. it doesnt make choices, because all choices are within it. it cannot be or choose to be anything other than itself, because then it wouldnt be infinite. leading to nothing existing, because everything is contained within it.
According to Ra, it does make choices. "Thus, the one intelligent infinity invested itself in an exploration of many-ness."
please notice that, intelligent infinity is infinity gained intelligence. it is not infinity.
infinity doesnt make choices. intelligent infinity does.
in short, intelligent infinity, is exploring infinity, the principle above it.
Quote:(08-17-2010, 07:28 AM)unity100 Wrote: the 'seemingly' word is also out of place by the way. there is no other finite than this. the 'finite', is this. finity that is known, is this. dubbing it 'illusion' or 'fake' doesnt change the fact that as far as what we know, finite can be like this, and entities that are finite, are like this. ie, this is finity. the finite, is this. there isnt another 'finite' concept so that the finity can be an 'illusion'. finity we discovered, is as this.
I'm not sure exactly what you're saying here. But our finity is different than that in other galaxies, according to Ra, in that our natural laws are different. Likewise, as you pointed out, our experience is presumably vastly different from that in the next octave.
the point is as i told in the earlier block;
entities spend infinite time in infinite octaves. even if the finity is different in each octave, it is finite. thus, there is infinite time spent being finite.
Quote:I don't disagree, but I may be missing your point. We were talking about becoming one with all in seventh density. (You had said that it wasn't possible to become one with all other selves' dark sides.)
this is different tho parallel. i say it is not possible for a single entity to be able to become one with all other selves' dark sides. moreover, it is impossible for a single entity to become one with all other selves' light sides either.
because, as a finite entity, it has finite capability.
only by increasingly merging with other entities and becoming greater groups (ie societal complexes, then totalities then so on), entities merge and become infinite.
in the end, infinite number of entities combine and become one with all others. this also implies that every entity becomes one with their light and dark sides one by one.
this is what i say.
Quote:(08-17-2010, 07:28 AM)unity100 Wrote: answer is simple ; only finites can explore infinity. aspects of infinity. with this logic, also exploration is an entity, that can explore infinity, in infinite time.
Right. And hence intelligent infinity's decision to investigate finity.
intelligent infinity is the one discovering. not infinity.