06-09-2015, 03:47 AM
well, I think suffering is pretty much inevitable on a 3d planet, especially one such as ours. 3rd Density has 100 times more intense catalyst than any other density (intensity refers both to the quality and the quantity of this catalyst), and until one has become adept at handling catalyst, this overabundance of catalyst wreaks confusion and chaos on the mind and body. It also causes ongoing intertial affects due to the misalignment of the self to the environment because catalyst is not a) recognised, and b) even if recognised, not effectively processed.
There is a reason why the optimal life span on a 3d planet is 900 years. The first 150-200 years are spent on balancing the mind complex and the body complex, so it is in a position to process the spiritual complex.
Being a Wanderer does not make one immune to this effect; as a Wanderer is laden with both a 3d mind and a 3d body. Both have to be trained and disciplined, like any other entity.
the business of working with spiritual influxes is the business of polarity. And if we are in a state of what Ra calls 'perpetual spiritual childhood', then no wonder the Polarization rates are so low on this planet.
Of course, not everything is lost, as many entities have taught themselves to work within the constraints of such a shortened lifespan.
but the fact remains, by the time most people are reaching a state of disciplined awareness, death is waiting.
To get back to the original question; suffering is the effect of confusion. Confusion is not registering the inputs into consciousness accurately (bodily inputs, spiritual inputs), and then that confusion lends itself to acting out of alignment with the environmental and social fields around us. That misalignment creates distortion, which then is experienced as pain and suffering.
If one is able to recognise and process catalyst as it happens (or at least on a daily basis), then misalignments will not occur. But the fact is, that we develop inertia along certain distorted habits, and don't even realise that those habits are the result of long standing confused recognition of catalyst.
Put this another way; if the so called awakened ones, and the more learned and loving souls were around to share their lessons for longer (APeacefulWarrior referenced the ministry of Jesus if he had stayed around 30 or 40 more years, or if Buddha had lived to 500, or Carla was around to complete this transition phase from 3d to 4d), then how much more guidance and insight could we draw upon?
This reduced lifespan, even though a consequence of not using opportune conditions, nevertheless results in a quagmire of non-progress. It's basically people getting trapped in a cycle of ignorance, and never living long enough (150-200 years+) to realise the mistakes of their youth, and build on their experience.
So more suffering happens, as more ignorance multiplies in families and gets entrenched in social and political mores.
True ignorance is unawareness of the rules of the game of 3d; which is: recognise your catalyst, use your catalyst, polarize, and choose love (love of self or love of the other).
Once you have knowledge of the game of 3d, your suffering can be incrementally reduced over time; and you start contributing less of your suffering to the collective whole.
If you don't want pain and suffering; learn your catalyst. That's really the only answer that needs to be given. As much as I like Buddhism, and it's 8 foldpath etc, it doesn't lend insight into individual catalyst. That is where the rubber meets the road, and you're responsible for your own vehicle and it's speed of progress.
There is a reason why the optimal life span on a 3d planet is 900 years. The first 150-200 years are spent on balancing the mind complex and the body complex, so it is in a position to process the spiritual complex.
Being a Wanderer does not make one immune to this effect; as a Wanderer is laden with both a 3d mind and a 3d body. Both have to be trained and disciplined, like any other entity.
Quote:20.24 Questioner: Can you tell me why nine hundred years is the optimum life span?
Ra: I am Ra. The mind/body/spirit complex of third density has perhaps one hundred times as intensive a program of catalytic action from which to distill distortions and learn/teachings than any other of the densities. Thus the learn/teachings are most confusing to the mind/body/spirit complex which is, shall we say, inundated by the ocean of experience.
During the first, shall we say, perhaps 150 to 200 of your years as you measure time, a mind/body/spirit complex is going through the process of a spiritual childhood, the mind and the body not enough in a disciplined configuration to lend clarity to the spiritual influxes. Thus, the remaining time span is given to optimize the understandings which result from experience itself.
the business of working with spiritual influxes is the business of polarity. And if we are in a state of what Ra calls 'perpetual spiritual childhood', then no wonder the Polarization rates are so low on this planet.
Of course, not everything is lost, as many entities have taught themselves to work within the constraints of such a shortened lifespan.
Quote:20.25 Questioner: Then at present it would seem that our life span is much too short for those who are new to third-density lessons. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is correct. Those entities which have, in some way, learned/taught themselves the appropriate distortions for rapid growth can now work within the confines of the shorter life span. However, the greater preponderance of your entities find themselves in what may be considered a perpetual childhood.
but the fact remains, by the time most people are reaching a state of disciplined awareness, death is waiting.
To get back to the original question; suffering is the effect of confusion. Confusion is not registering the inputs into consciousness accurately (bodily inputs, spiritual inputs), and then that confusion lends itself to acting out of alignment with the environmental and social fields around us. That misalignment creates distortion, which then is experienced as pain and suffering.
If one is able to recognise and process catalyst as it happens (or at least on a daily basis), then misalignments will not occur. But the fact is, that we develop inertia along certain distorted habits, and don't even realise that those habits are the result of long standing confused recognition of catalyst.
Put this another way; if the so called awakened ones, and the more learned and loving souls were around to share their lessons for longer (APeacefulWarrior referenced the ministry of Jesus if he had stayed around 30 or 40 more years, or if Buddha had lived to 500, or Carla was around to complete this transition phase from 3d to 4d), then how much more guidance and insight could we draw upon?
This reduced lifespan, even though a consequence of not using opportune conditions, nevertheless results in a quagmire of non-progress. It's basically people getting trapped in a cycle of ignorance, and never living long enough (150-200 years+) to realise the mistakes of their youth, and build on their experience.
So more suffering happens, as more ignorance multiplies in families and gets entrenched in social and political mores.
True ignorance is unawareness of the rules of the game of 3d; which is: recognise your catalyst, use your catalyst, polarize, and choose love (love of self or love of the other).
Once you have knowledge of the game of 3d, your suffering can be incrementally reduced over time; and you start contributing less of your suffering to the collective whole.
If you don't want pain and suffering; learn your catalyst. That's really the only answer that needs to be given. As much as I like Buddhism, and it's 8 foldpath etc, it doesn't lend insight into individual catalyst. That is where the rubber meets the road, and you're responsible for your own vehicle and it's speed of progress.
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