I came across a person recently who has had WAY too much pain, and is not yet even middle-aged as the pain is getting worse (not just talking about physical pain, either). It stuck with me. As it kept staying on my mind, I kept getting the message, "there are no victims", repeatedly.
I decided to find out more, and received the following.
Guides: There are no victims, [Stranger]. that is the truth. What we mean by that is that every suffering, as you call it, is chosen and selected by its perceived recipient, on a higher level of which you are not yet aware, but will become aware of shortly, that is the truth. Suffering is not the bane you imagine it to be. There is a reason for it which, once again, you do not yet comprehend. But we can tell you that, for instance, in the case of the person who brought on this sort of anguish for you last week, her suffering is entirely self-selected. She chose to experience a very, very difficult lifetime in order to advance spiritually, and that is the truth. Her ordeal, as you might put it, is not without its rewards. Think of it as an investment that she was fully willing to make, knowing just how difficult it would be to do so, but focusing on the benefit it would bring her personally in the future. Does that make sense to you?
Me: I understand why someone might choose to do this to themselves if it was in some way rewarding down the road (and it is, [Stranger]!). The part I'm struggling to comprehend is why create a Universe where such intense suffering is required to achieve any goals? Where's the sense or love in that?
Guides: We understand your query and are processing it. [brief pause] We did not create this Universe so we do not know how to answer it, and that is the truth. However, the suffering is self-chosen, and it would be well for you to keep that in mind. Adonai.
I decided to find out more, and received the following.
Guides: There are no victims, [Stranger]. that is the truth. What we mean by that is that every suffering, as you call it, is chosen and selected by its perceived recipient, on a higher level of which you are not yet aware, but will become aware of shortly, that is the truth. Suffering is not the bane you imagine it to be. There is a reason for it which, once again, you do not yet comprehend. But we can tell you that, for instance, in the case of the person who brought on this sort of anguish for you last week, her suffering is entirely self-selected. She chose to experience a very, very difficult lifetime in order to advance spiritually, and that is the truth. Her ordeal, as you might put it, is not without its rewards. Think of it as an investment that she was fully willing to make, knowing just how difficult it would be to do so, but focusing on the benefit it would bring her personally in the future. Does that make sense to you?
Me: I understand why someone might choose to do this to themselves if it was in some way rewarding down the road (and it is, [Stranger]!). The part I'm struggling to comprehend is why create a Universe where such intense suffering is required to achieve any goals? Where's the sense or love in that?
Guides: We understand your query and are processing it. [brief pause] We did not create this Universe so we do not know how to answer it, and that is the truth. However, the suffering is self-chosen, and it would be well for you to keep that in mind. Adonai.
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