05-31-2015, 10:58 AM
(05-27-2015, 06:02 PM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote:Quote:However, there will be confusion. The errors which have occurred have occurred due to the occasional variation in the vibrational complex of this instrument due to its ingestion of a chemical substance. It is not our intent in this particular project to create erroneous information but to express in the confining ambiance of your language system the feeling of the infinite mystery of the one creation in its infinite and intelligent unity.
Ra did not mention that it was possible that the contact could be compromised in the sense that another entity would speak in their place. Do you think they would have mentioned this here if it were ever the case?
No I don't believe that they would have because to explain without direct questioning is seen as infringement. Later on in the material they offer clues that Carla mentions in book 5. Just a few sessions further on from this one if my memory is reliable here. I would prefer to loose on a level playing field than win on one that is tilted in my favour.
(05-27-2015, 06:02 PM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote:Quote:The substance of which we speak is called vibratory sound complex, LSD.
Why didn’t Ra adhere to Carla’s wishes that Don not know about her use of LSD?
Carla offered herself up unconditionally in service to the Creator. This in my view overrides any personal little secret, or fragment of bone being revealed in one's otherwise skeleton free closet.
(05-27-2015, 06:02 PM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote:Quote:We have found it to be inappropriate in the extreme to encourage the overcoming of any desires, except to suggest the imagination rather than the carrying out in the physical plane, as you call it, of those desires not consonant with the Law of One; this preserving the primal distortion of free will.
Quote:more consonant with the Law of One.
Would you interpret Ra’s words “consonant with the Law of One” to mean, “consonant with the understanding of the unity implied by the Law of One”?
I would prefer to interpret Ra's words like this "Not in violation of another self's immediate jurisdiction".
(05-27-2015, 06:02 PM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote:Quote:As one proceeds from the primal distortion of free will, one proceeds to the understanding of the focal points of intelligent energy which have created the intelligences or the ways of a particular mind/body/spirit complex in its environment, both what you would call natural and what you would call man-made.
What is the difference between “natural” and “man-made” in this context? What exactly is Ra talking about “intelligences or the ways of a particular mind/body/spirit complex”?
The big C word springs to mind here for me. Capitalism. Our food, water and shelter needs are natural while the ways in which our common resources are managed and distributed are man made.
(05-27-2015, 06:02 PM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote:Quote:Thus, the distortions to be avoided are those which do not take into consideration the distortions of the focus of energy of love/light, or shall we say, the Logos of this particular sphere or density. These include the lack of understanding of the needs of the natural environment, the needs of other-selves’ mind/body/spirit complexes. These are many due to the various distortions of man-made complexes in which the intelligence and awareness of entities themselves have chosen a way of using the energies available.
Again, what exactly is Ra talking about here? What would a “need of the natural environment” be, and how might one have a lack of understanding of them? And what again are “man-made complexes” in this context?
We have a symbiotic relationship with our shared, or celestial body. Are we following the ways of our organic evolution? Or are we intervening with a "we know better" awareness? The environmental consequences that result from our trading ideology (capitalism) are seen as 'externalities'. This term expresses a lack of understanding to me. Stripping ancient forest's faster than they can be replenished. Protecting fossil fuel industries rather than promoting reusable or recyclable alternatives. Favouring hemp over paper, glass over plastic...Quality over quantity!
That's how I interpret "man made complexes", and the many various distortions that result from our socio/economic model are many. Factory farming and wages that are not sufficient to provide mind/bodyspirit complexes with their most basic, natural needs are what make my blood boil and eyes water the most.
(05-27-2015, 06:02 PM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote:Quote:We can suggest an attempt to become aware of the other-self as self and thus do that action which is needed by other-self, understanding from the other-self’s intelligence and awareness. In many cases this does not involve the breaking of the distortion of free will into a distortion or fragmentation called infringement. However, it is a delicate matter to be of service, and compassion, sensitivity, and an ability to empathize are helpful in avoiding the distortions of man-made intelligence and awareness.
Is this primarily the work of blue ray?
"compassion, sensitivity and an ability to empathise" fall into my green ray version of things.
(05-27-2015, 06:02 PM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote:Quote:This over-stimulation resulted in behavior that was beyond the conscious control of the entity.
Does anyone who is familiar with Crowley know what behavior Ra may be referring to here?
Drug addiction? I say that because I know what being a drug addict feels like and recall somebody saying he was an opiate user. I can assure anyone that once a drug has your undivided attention, it is beyond your conscious control. In my experience it acts as a surrogate or replacement to a caring, supportive other self.
(05-27-2015, 06:02 PM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote:Quote:Questioner: Well, was Yahweh then of the Confederation?
I think there was a misunderstanding in session 16.13-14 about Yahweh's nature, where Don asked about Orion's interaction with Earth, and then asking about a specific instance, Ra replied giving Yahweh's name, making it Ra's mistake. Does that seem to be the case?
The first half of book 2 resolves this issue. However, to re-view the session's in a linear fashion rather than a holistic one, then yes, this does seem to be the case.
(05-27-2015, 06:02 PM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote:Quote:The results of this interaction were quite mixed. Where the entities were of a vibrational sum characteristic which embraced oneness, the manipulations of Yahweh were very useful. Wherein the entities of free will had chosen a less positively oriented configuration of sum total vibratory complex, those of the Orion group were able for the first time to make serious inroads upon the consciousness of the planetary complex.
Is this referring to Yahweh's most recent attempts to aid 3,600 years ago, or their first attempt 75,000 years ago, or both?
Taking into consideration the answer from Ra that follows after the one you have quoted from in this session, leads me to believe they are referring to the 3,600 year period.
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