Creation x Universe / Meta-Creation x Meta-universe

[anagogy]

I have a question about this answer:

78.15 Questioner: Then the first experiences, as you say, were in monochrome. Now, was the concept of the seven densities of vibration with the evolutionary process taking place in the discrete densities— was that carried through from the previous octave?


Ra: I am Ra. To the limits of our knowledge, which are narrow, the ways of the octave are without time; that is, there are seven densities in each creation infinitely.

What is really the definition of Creation for Ra? My thoughts are that this Universe is a Major Creation, created by a Major Logos, in which many sub-Creations, created by sub-Logoi, evolve according to the Major Framework established by the Major Logos. But this is not the only Major Creation, there are infinite Creations parallel to this one, in which the framework of experience is different, with different parameters, different number of densities, or even other kinds of frameworks, with no densities at all. There must be no limits in infinity.

According to the LOO, do you think this concept is right?

From my perspective, there are always 7 rays in every octave.  Each density exists in all the rays, but each density is looking at the other rays from a dominant ray, or vibrational threshold/perspective.

Basically, the ray thresholds are "types of experiences" existing in infinity.  There is something sacred about the number 7 (number of completion), and also the number 8 (number of infinity).

I think they come into being "reflexively" and automatically as part of the inchoate structure of reality.  It is the same with the "subtle bodies".  They sort of just reflexively form as Beingness chooses to know itself.

While all possibilities exist in "infinity", there are certain "requirements" for a creation to be, for lack of better word, "structurally sound".  Just as a house needs four walls, a floor, and a roof, a fully formed reality requires its own structural "energy system".  These are seven rays of knowingness.  I'm sure there are plenty of nonsense realities that have no structure, and I'm also sure they most likely dissolve rather rapidly because of the lack of internal structure necessary to balance themselves, with respect to the wholeness from whence they arise.  It is sort of like how 1+1 will always equal 2, no matter what reality you are in.  It is a logical construct inherent in reality.  This is why math is a universal language.  The rays are along the same lines, in ways I can't even conceive how to properly articulate.

I see the octave density as encompassing all possibilities as both alpha and omega.  And then as the creation occurs infinity keeps refining itself more and more specifically, and each ray lower represents a more "specific" focusing of attributes.  So think of "rays" as "levels of specificness".  Red ray is the most specific, and tangible.  And 7th density is the most general, and intangible (and encompassing).  8th density is kind of neither.  It contains all possibilities.  It is infinity itself.

So think of the 7 rays as simply thresholds of tangible/intangible.  This is why they are present in every creation, because every creation will fall somewhere on that line between tangible/intangible.  Just like everything that is visible to us will fall somewhere on the electromagnetic rainbow spectrum of light.  I also want to make it clear that it is more than just "intangible/tangible", it is also mind/matter, uncertainty/certainty (or faith/knowingness). And all of the places in between those extremes or poles.  I'm just giving a very crude and general answer here.  Each threshold, or ray, contains a bewildering array of attributes that is a lifelong endeavor to fully understand.  I am just providing a VERY basic conceptual key for seeing this in a new light. You could even think of them as vibrational "tones", rather than just color. Whether the thresholds are perceived visually or auditorily or however you wish to discriminate among vibrational thresholds, they represent the wholeness of the creation, divided into 7 aspects, in dynamic balanced tension.

These are just my personal insights and opinions.