05-20-2015, 08:32 PM
(05-17-2015, 11:19 PM)Zachary Wrote: I am creating this thread to open the door to an intelligent discussion on the implications and morality of owning a gun in relation to self preservation and/or preservation of loved ones. Here we have a few quotes from Ra that are tied into the topic. I know we all desire to live in a world where there are no guns and no violence. Given that we do, however, live in a world where there are those wishing to do harm I feel this is a relevant (and very sensitive) topic worth discussing.
Ra did answer a question related to the original thrust of your query:
Question:
Quote:"33.9 Questioner: Yes, I do. Then from this I will extrapolate the concept which is somewhat more difficult because as you have explained before, even fourth-density positive has the concept of defensive action, but above the fourth density the concept of defensive action is not in use. The concept of defensive action and [chuckle] offensive action are very much in use in this, our present experience.
I am assuming that if an entity is polarized strongly enough in his thought in a positive sense defensive action is not going to be necessary for him because the opportunity to apply defensive action will never originate for him. Is this correct?"
Answer:
Quote:"Ra: I am Ra. This is unknowable. In each case, as we have said, an entity able to program experiences may choose the number and the intensity of lessons to be learned.
It is possible that an extremely positively oriented entity might program for itself situations testing the ability of self to refrain from defensive action even to the point of the physical death of self or other-self.
This is an intensive lesson and it is not known, shall we say, what entities have programmed. We may, if we desire, read this programming. However, this is an infringement and we choose not to do so."
in the end, it comes to life programming (as one scenario).
the question, also, of home invasion and sudden random acts of violence also invite the question of how strongly such scenarios are considered in the self. ie, what is the motivation for thinking and pre-empting such situations?
if one is living in a neighbourhood where such things are commonplace, it may be sensible to pre-empt such a scenario. If one has never encountered such a situation, or not had any friends/relatives who related such an event, it may be inner fears latching onto what one has seen on the news, or read in other parts of the world/country.
Then it may be symbol for something else. Ie red ray fears of survival, intangible threats that can't be articulated etc etc.
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