(05-18-2015, 08:09 AM)andreazzi Wrote: This is an awkward concept, anagogy. Based on the Ra Material and also in most of the spiritual teachings available here on Earth, that I know of, incarnation is not only the most efficient catalyst for spiritual evolution, it is actually the only one. The Creator needs a body in all planes of existence. As an example, we have this passage in the Ra Material, where Ra states that, once in time/space, the mind/body/spirit complex has no other choice than to incarnate in it's respective space/time environment, in order to be delivered from it and thus continue it's path to the Creator.
I am aware that this concept, at first glance, does not rez with the Ra material. I fully concede that, and was fully aware of that quote prior to stating what I stated.
The Ra material is near and dear to my heart, but not all channeled material is correct. And as precise as Ra was, even their words do not always paint a perfect picture of the cosmos. At least, that is my opinion and perspective at this time.
I agree that beings need bodies to "evolve". But I still maintain that physical incarnation is not for all beings. There are other planes one may "incarnate" into a "body of sorts" and evolve. I have little proof to offer you, I can only tell you this is my understanding. Perhaps one day I will change my stance, but it is as it is.
Human consciousness is "ascendant" in nature, and thus, incarnation is an important tool for us, as such. There are forms which exist which are not ascendant in nature, that dwell spiritually as part of the Logos, and they do not "evolve" and do not require physical bodies. "The particular Logos of your major galaxy has used a large portion of Its coalesced material to reflect the beingness of the Creator. In this way there is much of your galactic system which does not have the progression of which you speak but dwells spiritually as a portion of the Logos."
To supplement the perspective I have offered, here is an excerpt from a subject in deep trance hypnosis, regressed to the inbetween lives state, from Dolores Cannon's work Between Death and Life:
Quote:D: Could you explain about these spiritual planes or levels?
S: If you would like to envision an inverted pyramid, God
would be at the top or the longest edge, and humanity would
be at the bottom or at the point. The planes are in-between
and as they go higher in number, they become more spiritual.
As one advances in the planes, one broadens one‘s awareness
and becomes closer to God. However, this pyramid analogy
lacks in several aspects, one being that the top or longest part
would be infinite. To be God, it would have to be infinite.
D: How do we advance through the planes?
S: You’re advancing through your planes right now. Incarnation is one manner.
D : Is i t a matter of simply spiritual development?
S: Spiritual development, yes. Physical development is another.-
D: Do we have to live more than one life in order to advance?
S: You need not live any lives at all if you so desire. It is not necessary
to incarnate; it is simply more efficient.
D: More efficient for what?
S: For you. For your time, For your learning experiences. It is
more complete learning to incarnate than to remain spiritual.
These are short cuts, if you will, to the ultimate destination.
D: And what is the ultimate goal?
S: To be one with God. To join with God again and reach
perfection, and then you don’t have to come back any more.
D: Have many spirits or souls reached the highest level of these
planes!
S: Many have already joined God and need never return to
lower planes again.
D: How many lives does it generally take?
S: It varies with different individuals. If they can stay with the
goal they have set and the pattern and not forget why they are
there, and stay in touch with their inner selves and stay
strictly on the path, it doesn’t take as many. But too many
people get caught up with the ways of the world. Their egos
and their vanities are built around them and they lose contact
with the spiritual, deeper truths of the reasons behind
their existence.
D: If we didn’t incarnate, how would we reach God?
S: Through other methods. Through helping, assisting incarnated
beings. Through being a guide, a teacher, a helper, a
friend on the spirit planes. There are many different methods.
D: What is the objective of physically working up through these
planes if it can be done from the other side?
S: We are ascendant beings. We are forming a ladder. There are
others whose entire purpose is stationary. This is similar to
people in a marathon. There are those at certain points who
do nothing but hold the water and give it to the runners as
they pass. These runners are ascendants, if you will, from the
beginning to the end. Angels are the assistants who do not
climb but merely serve. Our purpose is to start at the beginning
and run until we get to the finish. However, there is no
first or last place. All who cross the finish line are winners
in that race.
There are even beings that are not aware physical realities even exist:
From Seth:
Quote:The source and power of your present consciousness has never been physical, and where I am, many are not even aware that such a physical system exists. The physical system is an illusion, but you must accept it and from your viewpoint try to understand the realities that exist beyond it." "You cannot objectify the inner portions of your own identity, and therefore you do not perceive them. So much of your energy is used in the physical productions that you cannot afford to perceive any reality but your own. Like children playing with blocks, you focus your attention on the physical blocks. The physical blocks appear very real to you when you dwell within their perspective. Other shapes and forms that you could perceive, you do not. Even in explaining other realities, I must use the words and shapes or you would not understand me.
Anyways, I could be wrong, but this is my current understanding.