08-05-2010, 01:42 PM
(08-05-2010, 01:16 PM)3D Sunset Wrote: Assuming that you do not disagree with this story, I do not see how you can hold the notion that upon death, a wanderer returns directly to his home density and that polarization and harvest is not required of wanderers in 3D.
Please enlighten me.
3D Sunset
'the first body to activate after death is indigo ray body, which is the formmaker body' -> from the description of Ra regarding what happens after death, during the study of various bodies in the channelings.
that means, after death, even if the entity is a 3d entity, it first goes into indigo body, formmaker body, to heal and to revive the incarnation. 3d entities here, during this period, probably meet their higher self, and probably hence the various reports of 'seeing god' and talking to god during near death experiences involving various formats.
3d harvest after the veil, if i remember right, is done with a method that checks how close to light can the entity get, and the point it stops determines its situation. what is measured is the ability to radiate, or absorb energy/light. this determines the polarity concept.
positive or negative wanderer, however, is already an entity which absorbs or radiates energy to a certain extent, depending on its existing polarization. it may or may not have opened its chakras during incarnation, however, its spirit, if it remained true to its nature, would already be an indicator of the entity's nature. moreover, imagine a 6d entity, returning to indigo formmaker body after death -> after a period of healing, the entity would be in its nature habitat, the body it is comfortable with, ie, already at home density. any kind of incompatibility/discrepancy with its natural environment would already show.
the difference would occur in polarity switches then, if we take the 5d wanderers' case into question.
these entities went from emanating light, to absorbing light. they switched to the other side of the spectrum. therefore, necessitating a 3d harvest, in order to asses the precise strength and advancedness of the entity for 4d negative.
it is not that a wanderer may not experience a harvest. that may depend on situations, or, preferences. but, there isnt a sizeable meaning in a wanderer experiencing a 3d harvest ; 3d harvest is one that measures polarity.
not only polarity is not enough for graduation from 4d to 5d, for example, but also 4d harvest is a societal complex one. same goes for 6d harvest. we dont have detailed information on 5d and 6d harvests, but since 4d harvest requires different criteria than 3d harvest, (and also 1 and 2d harvests require different criteria too) it is highly possible that any density requires different criteria for harvest :
ra says the octave and its densities were created by intelligent infinity to reflect various facets of existence. therefore, all densities, rays, carry a major nature of existence as it can be manifested in this octave, and therefore each would have different characteristics (and they do have), and naturally, different criteria would be required for passing into any other. there may be similarities in some densities' harvests though.
if we add to this, the fact that 4d and 6d harvests for example, are strictly societal complex ones, that means that for any kind of harvest relevant to their density to happen, the societal complex of the entity should be ready for harvest and going to harvest.
this leaves out all practical benefits of experiencing a 3d harvest for a wanderer.
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ali qadir's approach, and the last reason Ra cites for wanderer incarnation comes more rational to me.
Quote:The final reason is within the mind/body/spirit totality or the social memory complex totality which may judge that an entity or members of a societal entity can make use of third-density catalyst to recapitulate a learning/teaching which is adjudged to be less than perfect. This especially applies to those entering into and proceeding through sixth-density wherein the balance between compassion and wisdom is perfected.