04-13-2015, 01:08 AM
(04-10-2015, 04:56 PM)Yggdrasil Wrote: Again, this is a matter of perspective. The view you are looking at is from 'within the river of time', whereas I am viewing it from outside of time in its timeless state. The octave will never exhaust its possibilities per se, because those possibilities are a function of the consciousness experiencing the octave. Thus, the octave cannot truly 'end' however it does cycle infinitely as the octave itself is a timeless structure within which the illusion of time and space are present like the sound produced by air through a flute.
This is where it gets kind of complicated though. The 'breath' which moves through the octave is that which gives focus to the Logoi. This breath is like an Arch-Logos whom is the archetype and Adam Kadmon of all Logoi and of which all Logoi drink from the One. This Arch-Logos stands at the 'gateway' between octaves and represents each Octave's collective self, the conclusive identity created out of each octave as the breath moves through. This you could say is the note being played by the flute by the Creator in this octave.
Our octave, or the one described by Ra, is, I believe, actually within a greater octave and so the 'next octave' is actually just a step up in this greater or macrocosmic octave. I believe we are within the fourth octave of this greater octave. You could also perhaps call it the "Green Octave". Thus, moving on to the next octave will take you to the "Blue Octave".
The cycle of which you speak is that movement of the breath from the previous octave, in to this one and then on to the next. Remember, there is always more breath coming in to this octave from the previous one, thus this octave will never truly run out of its possibilities because possibilities can exist in an infinite number of iterations so the universe can use and reuse the exact same events over and over without losing the uniqueness of each event because there are infinite iterations or fractals possible. Thus, every experience is always available for every entity that spawns from the breath as it moves through this octave.
Hence, there is only movement forward by the entity towards the next octave. The instrument, the octave, ever remains the same, for it is timeless.
Quote:40.1 Questioner: I thought that I would make a statement and let you correct it. I’m trying to make a simple model of the portion of the universe that we find ourselves in. Starting with the Logos, or sub-Logos, our sun, we have white light emanating from this. This is made up of frequencies ranging from the red to the violet. I am assuming that this white light then contains the experiences through all of the densities and as we go into the eighth density we go into a black hole which emerges on the other side as another Logos or sun and starts another octave of experience. Can you comment on this part of my statement?
Ra: I am Ra. We can comment upon this statement to an extent. The concept of the white light of the sub-Logos being prismatically separated and later, at the final chapter, being absorbed again is basically correct. However, there are subtleties involved which are more than semantic.
The white light which emanates and forms the articulated sub-Logos has its beginning in what may be metaphysically seen as darkness. The light comes into that darkness and transfigures it, causing the chaos to organize and become reflective or radiant. Thus the dimensions come into being.
Conversely, the blackness of the black hole, metaphysically speaking, is a concentration of white light being systematically absorbed once again into the One Creator. Finally, this absorption into the One Creator continues until all the infinity of creations have attained sufficient spiritual mass in order that all form once again the great central sun, if you would so imagine it, of the intelligent infinity awaiting potentiation by free will. Thus the transition of the octave is a process which may be seen to enter into timelessness of unimaginable nature. To attempt to measure it by your time measures would be useless.
Therefore, the concept of moving through the black hole of the ultimate spiritual gravity well and coming immediately into the next octave misses the subconcept or corollary of the portion of this process which is timeless.
What was said on another thread made me think that it's possible that the penultimate octave was where the polarity of male and female was developed according to Yggdrasil's post here. I thought I saw something about that in the Ra material, but I can't find it. It might not even be there.