(08-04-2010, 10:20 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: I find Book IV to be the most challenging. I've tried numerous times to read it from start to finish, but somehow some of the sessions towards the end get skimmed over and not fully absorbed. Anyone else experience this?
yes.
Quote:I would like to personally make a commitment to this thread. I think the study of Book IV is important, because it's not just interesting knowledge about the pyramids, the Cosmos etc. but about the very fabric of our being! What could be more important than understanding our body-mind-spirit complex? And yet, Book IV seems to be the most neglected.
Thus, I hereby commit to reading a little of Book IV, and posting some comment or question, on a regular basis. I cannot promise every day, but I will do my best to keep this thread alive.
Anyone with me?
yes. this is very important.
Quote:Ra: I am Ra. At the beginning of this creation or, as you may call it, octave there were those things known which were the harvest of the preceding octave. About the preceding creation, we know as little as we do of the octave to come. However, we are aware of those pieces of gathered concept which were the tools which the Creator had in the knowing of the self.
it is always to be remembered here, i think, that there was a previous octave, and there is a next octave. things known in this octave were not known in the prior one.
Quote:These tools were of three kinds. Firstly, there was an awareness of the efficiency for experience of mind, body, and spirit. Secondly, there was an awareness of the most efficacious nature or, if you will, significator of mind, body, and spirit. Thirdly, there was the awareness of two aspects of mind, of body, and of spirit that the significator could use to balance all catalyst. You may call these two the matrix and the potentiator.
(08-04-2010, 10:20 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Significator, matrix, potentiator. These terms are used throughout Book IV. Anyone want to offer some definitions?
matrix seems to be the shapegiver, male. potentiator seems to be the female, inspirer, potential giver. significator, i remember to be the mainfesting end result of all of these, the mind/body/spirit complex, ie, the entity in its physical body manifestation. (wherever that is, may be a 2d, 3d, etcetc 7d body).
but then, the definitions below seem to tell otherwise.
Quote:Ra: I am Ra. The Matrix of Mind is that from which all comes. It is unmoving yet is the activator in potentiation of all mind activity. The Potentiator of the Mind is that great resource which may be seen as the sea into which the consciousness dips ever deeper and more thoroughly in order to create, ideate, and become more self-conscious.
the potentiator seems more male here. isnt it ?
potentiator here is more active, it does activity.
Quote:The Significator of each mind, body, and spirit may be seen as a simple and unified concept. The Matrix of the Body may be seen to be a reflection in opposites of the mind; that is, unrestricted motion. The Potentiator of the Body then is that which, being informed, regulates activity.
matrix of the body seems to be our manifestation, ie, the body (in whatever plane, space/time or time/space it is, or whichever density) ?
the potentiator sounds like, the brain, or the part of consciousness, the mind that resides in the brain ?
Quote:The Matrix of the Spirit is difficult to characterize since the nature of spirit is less motile. The energies and movements of the spirit are, by far, the most profound yet, having more close association with time/space, do not have the characteristics of dynamic motion. Thusly one may see the Matrix as the deepest darkness and the Potentiator of Spirit as the most sudden awakening, illuminating, and generative influence.
here it sounds like that the matrix is something related to motion though. it kinda fits in the definition of word matrix. ie, it seems like an arranged, shaped situation which can be moved about in.
potentiator of the spirit sounds here more femaleish tho, relevant to inspiration, realization of something and so on.
Quote:78.11 Questioner: Could you elaborate please on the nature and quality of the matrix and the potentiator?
Ra: I am Ra. In the mind complex the matrix may be described as consciousness. It has been called the Magician. It is to be noted that of itself consciousness is unmoved. The potentiator of consciousness is the unconscious. This encompasses a vast realm of potential in the mind.
aha then.
potentiator is female principle. the mover. the moved is the male, which is the matrix. potentiator of consciousness, ie potentiator of the matrix is unconscious.
so, the mover is unconscious, female, moved is conscious, male.
and, here we have the glimpses of the polarity of last octave ; the mover and the moved.
Quote:In the body the matrix may be seen as Balanced Working or Even Functioning. Note that here the matrix is always active with no means of being inactive. The potentiator of the body complex, then, may be called Wisdom for it is only through judgment that the unceasing activities and proclivities of the body complex may be experienced in useful modes.
its get blurry here.
Quote:The Matrix of the Spirit is what you may call the Night of the Soul or Primeval Darkness. Again we have that which is not capable of movement or work. The potential power of this extremely receptive matrix is such that the potentiator may be seen as Lightning. In your archetypical system called the tarot this has been refined into the concept complex of the Lightning Struck Tower. However, the original potentiator was light in its sudden and fiery form; that is, the lightning itself.
this doesnt fit too well with the male/female polarizaton too. matrix of the spirit seems female here. yet, lightning, which is an active principle ....
then again maybe not. now, in the instant of realization, the realization, there may be male and female principles acting to and with each other. so, the darkness may be unmoving and male, yet, when potentiated by potentiator, it transforms into lightning.
Quote:This is the description of Archetypes One through Nine before the onset of influence of the co-Creator or sub-Logos’ realization of free will.
hmmm