04-06-2015, 06:12 PM
(04-06-2015, 05:44 PM)Monica Wrote:(04-06-2015, 05:37 PM)AngelofDeath Wrote: I'm gonna be bold and jump on to this particular point. WHY is enjoying the taste a poor excuse? Why would it be considered purely an excuse at all?
I will counter that with a question for you:
Is it congruent with the STO path to enjoy some pleasure, such as taste, at the expense of another sentient being? Ie., if our choice to enjoy xyz causes them to suffer and violates their free will?
Your question is convoluted in terms of time and cause and effect. It is worded in a way that expects an incorrect or correct answer, it seems.
I see the causal pattern you are trying to insinuate but it is specific and leaves details out. No, it is not 'congruent with the STO path' (the path according to the Ra Material, mind you) to gain at the expense of another, which is what you are insinuating. The question of the nature of the enjoyment had while eating is another thing. Why assume that everyone who is eating meat is gleefully thinking of the cruelty the animal may have experienced before it died? That seems a little morbid.
While yes, you could say that people eating meat leads to animals thus being killed for meat, that is fair reasoning, the minds of those who ultimately receive the meat are not the same as those who raise and slaughter the animals. Again, looking through this thread, it seems there is the same point of cruelty. I've read through some of your posts and I understand that you think killing (particularly sentient creatures by sentient creatures) is pretty much always wrong and 'STS', so your question to me here isn't surprising. I can't argue with your concepts regarding torture because I am with you on the points that animals should be nurtured. I, like you, would be perfectly content with "grown" meat if I could back up the science.
However, coming back to the point of the question which is the congruency with service-to-others, it is easy to say that particular scenario doesn't reflect service to others. That doesn't at all however define the entirety of an individual's path and their work towards service to others. It is part of the STO path to recognize that you enjoy the taste of whatever it is you enjoy. It would also be part of the STO path to accept that about yourself. From there would then be the decision as to how to be more of service to these other selves, the service which would be unique to each individual. There would also be recognizing that others enjoy that taste and accepting that about them, loving them despite their supposed STS nature. Then one would share their understandings of love/light in whatever way they best know as themselves, how each one knows the One Infinite in their own personal way. Then one would begin to conceptualize the taste on a planetary level, and this is where we actually encounter the difficulty that you are focused upon which would be the source, environment and conditions from which the taste arose. There are many, many paths for service to others, so each might go about their own way in finding a way to be of service to the other selves they see to be tied to that experience.