Harvest: Do The Math

[Questioner]

My apologies if I missed response to any points you deem important. It is late and I am tired and it took some time to reply to our dear sister

Ultimately, all this discussion seems like wasted energy to me.

I think what is most important is what we already agree on here. Otherwise this forum would hold no sustained interest for any of us. They key point is this: our opportunity for spiritual growth is in discovering the love available in each moment, as we appreciate and participate in ever more of the one creator's diversity of expressions.

With that foundation, there is plenty of time to discuss what might happen; or, without expectation, to simply wait and see while going about our everyday, every moment mission of bringing light and love to that moment. There is always enough time to greet the future with love in our hearts. If that's what we do, then it really doesn't matter much whether or not our minds turn over various speculations. Compared to driving, the heart is the engine, the mind is the radio. As long as we don't get too distracted to pay attention to the road, a talk show is fine as long as we don't substitute chatter for genuine traffic reports.

If P's interpretation is right, Harvest will be a transition process spanning centuries. Therefore there is no need to rush to figure it out now. If David Wilcock's interpretation is right, Harvest will come about from forces of nature and forces of "spiritual Management." These forces, he says, will do their work with or without our understanding of the process. If those who expect "change in the twinkling of an eye" are correct, the earliest we can expect that change is a year and half from now assuming Q'uo's Solstice 2011 remark wasn't a communication error. Therefore, if our discussions occur today or next week, that doesn't really matter much, does it?

Ra specifically said that our current density of consciousness does not support truly understanding these matters. Despite that limitation, Ra and Q'uo have seen benefit in providing what information they can to those who seek what understanding we can have inside these limits. I've been outspoken, perhaps most so in a thread that since got deleted, against any premise of "salvation through cleverness." I see that as a manipulation used by negative forces to spread fear, despair, anxiety, worry, and dependency on particular groups. Whether or not we figure out what might happen and how it might happen, cleverness and comprehension will not save us if we don't first have compassion, wisdom, and balance. If we do have those positive qualities, the clever understanding is still optional.

This context still gives opportunity to explore some topics that seem to be to be worth discussing, for those interested. One very serious concern brought up by P: since we apparently haven't yet experienced Harvest, what if anything can we do about the evil manipulations being done by the STS ne'er-do-wells in our current world? And other question is, given what information we have so far, how might life be like after Harvest? While realizing that insights and conversations can't save us, it still can be useful to compare what we've learned so that each of our minds can be, if possible, a bit more accurate in their model of how the future might yet unfold.