08-02-2010, 02:00 AM
First off, I must make it clear that to be a member of the people I speak of, one must have, not a petty small time billion or less, but minimally several billion dollars.
In order to leave for another 3D planet they must be free of the physical vehicle they currently inhabit. "You can't take it with you" is indeed fitting in this case.
Agreed this is what it is all about, but the number is, in ratio to the population, still relatively small. Orange ray work is complex... as I have personally found. One must clear the blockage or partial blockage in the orange ray to fully work in the green ray, and this takes a great deal of effort and focus. With all the distractions presented in this current world, that is a task the many fail to ever do.
You don't remember the "Pandemic"? There were vax shortages. Health care professionals were charged with stealing it to vaccinate their families. There was security personnel at the clinics, lineups out the doors... The clinics ended up prioritizing women and children first because they couldn't make it fast enough... how convenient. I think if you don't see the fear in people, you aren't looking. Walk down the street. Look into peoples eyes. Wait.. you can't because they won't look at you. People hide inside their heads or their cell phones or in their iPods or their homes. Granted there are those that don't; again, this number is small. I personally smile at almost everyone I meet going down the street, and occasionally one smiles back. It isn't many. I have found the homeless actually smile back a good deal.
I was speaking of the "something wrong" feeling in regards to 4D light, not in any other sense such as saying "there is something wrong with this generation". That has been said for thousands of years
My apologies for the misunderstanding.
Search away. When it comes to hand held, you won't find any. They don't use them. If vehicle mounted, the antenna is on the roof and the roof is EMF shielded. No precaution is spared.
Who do you think owns pharma? Just as the Queen uses homoeopathic/holistic medicine, I would bet dollars to donuts the rest do too.
Virus', bacteria, pollution, deathly gases, pollution etc etc certainly are easy to remove in a filtered environment such as a multi-million dollar home. Howard Hughes had one in the 1930's. I'm sure they have become far more advanced since then, and if it can be done in a "Boy in the bubble" scenario, it can be easily done in a home/car/business. Do a search for home air purification or home air filtration systems.
Do you seriously think the monitory rich drink tap water? Really? I'm not rich and I don't drink it. You aren't rich and you don't drink it. If anyone here had the money to drink better than fluoridated tap water, would they choose it?
I agree they cannot completely avoid life... They have to walk from the car to the hotel and back to the car at times. Sure they can't avoid everything at all times, but they can most of the time.
The children's friends are other members or families within the circle. More on this below.
Politicians are low level "front men". It is required for the spotlight to be on these puppets so that the real players are not noticed. Having foolish children/ family members is fine, for these simply continue to distract the masses. All of this distraction is so beautifully orchestrated by the main stream media. (Perhaps a whole other thread, though I tire of speaking of all this).
An STS entity is selfish from the beginning of life, and this is encouraged and rewarded from an early age. The schools even are designed so that they are taught they are smarter and superior in every way, and that the rest of the people in the world are weak stupid animals. They not only dislike people, but feel no remorse or compassion for them because they believe what they have been told. It pays to believe (for them).
I assume in the last sentence you meant to say STS... All spirits incarnate into lives which will best provide the catalyst which will advance their individual spiritual evolution. If one is STS, then the life of an ultra rich self indulgent family that caters to the self is the perfect place to continue to gain polarization... it only makes sense.
Brain washing combined with STS traits (of a psychopath) cemented with threats of loss of power, security, and monitory income can do wonders. Doubt nothing is possible, sister, if the desire is great enough. When one speaks of moving mountains, it can be done.
There are several ruling powers in the world, but one has held the balance of power and still do. As to ruling the world... no they don't, but they have had considerable power for the last couple hundred years. They have been working towards their final push to polarize as strongly as possible, for they know just as we know, that where they ascend to is hostile.
Correct; the vaccines given to the masses are designed to do damage.
Also to not sidetrack, I only wish to emphasize that the vaccines given to the masses are not the vaccines which the manufacturers of the disease(s) have.
Respectfully sister, I think you underestimate them. They have been working on the plan on getting the world to being the way it is for hundreds of years, if not thousands. Because history was not recorded I cannot show points going back that far, but I will tell you one significant date... 5 October 1582. As for STS adepts, there are many, far more than STO adepts. This is why there are so many lightworkers here; to create balance.
This is not my desire and I hope to manifest a different reality, one in which this catalyst spurs mankind to awaken and move into the green ray, but as I understand it, and as we have spoken about, this is a blend of manifestation of the many, not of the one. Ever possible, but improbable, no?
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Not necessarily earth? This is incorrect. Most definitely not earth. Without love? Again incorrect. In the case of STS, they love the self.
Once free of the veil one remembers all of their past lives. Nothing is forgotten.
My apologies if I missed response to any points you deem important. It is late and I am tired and it took some time to reply to our dear sister
(08-01-2010, 03:32 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Not everyone will wake up. Some will leave to another 3D planet.
In order to leave for another 3D planet they must be free of the physical vehicle they currently inhabit. "You can't take it with you" is indeed fitting in this case.
(08-01-2010, 03:32 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: But many who aren't waking up consciously are still polarizing STO. For example, I have some friends and family members who get their children vaccinated, are entrenched in religion, etc. and yet are still polarizing. I see it unfolding right before my eyes. They are waking up. Maybe not to the machinations going on behind the scenes, but they are waking up to love and compassion.
Isn't that what it's all about?
Agreed this is what it is all about, but the number is, in ratio to the population, still relatively small. Orange ray work is complex... as I have personally found. One must clear the blockage or partial blockage in the orange ray to fully work in the green ray, and this takes a great deal of effort and focus. With all the distractions presented in this current world, that is a task the many fail to ever do.
(08-01-2010, 03:32 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:(08-01-2010, 01:58 PM)Peregrinus Wrote: People stampeded like pigs at the trough to get their "vaccine" against the H1N1. They are in so much fear right now they don't know what to do with it.
The masses just line up to get their flu shots because they're told to do it. They aren't particularly fearful; they're just following their chosen 'authorities.' The are just doing what the doctors and preachers tell them to do, just as my parents obliged when the family doc told them to have their kids' tonsils removed. It's really no different.
You don't remember the "Pandemic"? There were vax shortages. Health care professionals were charged with stealing it to vaccinate their families. There was security personnel at the clinics, lineups out the doors... The clinics ended up prioritizing women and children first because they couldn't make it fast enough... how convenient. I think if you don't see the fear in people, you aren't looking. Walk down the street. Look into peoples eyes. Wait.. you can't because they won't look at you. People hide inside their heads or their cell phones or in their iPods or their homes. Granted there are those that don't; again, this number is small. I personally smile at almost everyone I meet going down the street, and occasionally one smiles back. It isn't many. I have found the homeless actually smile back a good deal.
(08-01-2010, 03:32 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:(08-01-2010, 01:58 PM)Peregrinus Wrote: Another thing which is causing problems is, of course, the 4D light. Because most have rejected green ray work and have fallen back into the complexities of the orange ray, the green ray light disturbs them.
Sure. That's where they're at. We'd be disturbed too if we were suddenly transported to the center of the Sun!
(08-01-2010, 01:58 PM)Peregrinus Wrote: If you know people you can ask, but they do not know of the LOO or of what is really happening, ask them in some roundabout way if they feel like something is wrong. They will say yes, but they don't know what it is. I've asked... and always gotten the same response. You can see it in people's demeanor, their actions.
Back in the 1960s, my parents thought the world had become an evil place. In their minds, it was because of the 60s hippie generation! (What I consider a very positive thing.)
I was speaking of the "something wrong" feeling in regards to 4D light, not in any other sense such as saying "there is something wrong with this generation". That has been said for thousands of years
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(08-01-2010, 03:32 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:(08-01-2010, 01:58 PM)Peregrinus Wrote:(08-01-2010, 12:26 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: The power elite use cell phones too. So do their children.
Are you sure? I have never seen a picture of a Bilderberg member holding a cell phone. Can you find one?
Well that must mean Obama is a good guy, because I know he uses a Blackberry.
I just did a search and couldn't find any on bush but did find a pic of former 'president' cheney holding a cell phone. (For what it's worth)
Search away. When it comes to hand held, you won't find any. They don't use them. If vehicle mounted, the antenna is on the roof and the roof is EMF shielded. No precaution is spared.
(08-01-2010, 03:32 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:(08-01-2010, 01:58 PM)Peregrinus Wrote: Do you honestly think the negative polarized and their family members eat GMOs, drink fluoridated water out of aluminum pots and pans, etc etc?
Yes, I do. I think they really believe the medical scam. They really believe that drugs and surgery are the answers to health.
Who do you think owns pharma? Just as the Queen uses homoeopathic/holistic medicine, I would bet dollars to donuts the rest do too.
(08-01-2010, 03:32 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Maybe some of them are savvy about GMOs and fluoridated water, but they certainly can't escape a plague. Viruses and bacteria aren't selective.
What about the chemicals in the environment? They still breathe the same air!
Virus', bacteria, pollution, deathly gases, pollution etc etc certainly are easy to remove in a filtered environment such as a multi-million dollar home. Howard Hughes had one in the 1930's. I'm sure they have become far more advanced since then, and if it can be done in a "Boy in the bubble" scenario, it can be easily done in a home/car/business. Do a search for home air purification or home air filtration systems.
(08-01-2010, 03:32 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Also, fluoride is extremely difficult to remove from water. Fluoride filters cause other problems in the water. Bottled water puts plastic chemicals into the water. Distillers and reverse osmosis systems remove the minerals, thus causing other problems due to leaching of beneficial minerals from the body.
Do you seriously think the monitory rich drink tap water? Really? I'm not rich and I don't drink it. You aren't rich and you don't drink it. If anyone here had the money to drink better than fluoridated tap water, would they choose it?
(08-01-2010, 03:32 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: As long as they reside on planet Earth, they cannot completely escape the toxic substances they are supposedly subjecting the masses to.
I agree they cannot completely avoid life... They have to walk from the car to the hotel and back to the car at times. Sure they can't avoid everything at all times, but they can most of the time.
(08-01-2010, 03:32 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Do their children have friends? Do they have mothers? Will the mothers knowingly allow their own friends and loved ones to be affected? How far does their protective circle go?
The children's friends are other members or families within the circle. More on this below.
(08-01-2010, 03:32 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: This completely ignores human nature. Children tend to rebel. Look at how Presidents Nixon and Reagan had daughters who rebelled against the politics of their fathers. Just last week I saw something on the news about a woman who started a website entitled "dontvoteformydad" or something like that. She also ran a full-page ad in the local newspaper urging people to not vote for her father, because he was a horrible father and person in general.
Politicians are low level "front men". It is required for the spotlight to be on these puppets so that the real players are not noticed. Having foolish children/ family members is fine, for these simply continue to distract the masses. All of this distraction is so beautifully orchestrated by the main stream media. (Perhaps a whole other thread, though I tire of speaking of all this).
An STS entity is selfish from the beginning of life, and this is encouraged and rewarded from an early age. The schools even are designed so that they are taught they are smarter and superior in every way, and that the rest of the people in the world are weak stupid animals. They not only dislike people, but feel no remorse or compassion for them because they believe what they have been told. It pays to believe (for them).
(08-01-2010, 03:32 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Many of us incarnated into families that were entrenched in religious dogma. Some were abusive. Some were alcoholics, etc. Thus, we know that STO's can and do incarnate into messed up families, or even to STO parents.
Conversely, wouldn't it be safe to assume that STO's can and do incarnate into the families of the 'negative elite'?
I assume in the last sentence you meant to say STS... All spirits incarnate into lives which will best provide the catalyst which will advance their individual spiritual evolution. If one is STS, then the life of an ultra rich self indulgent family that caters to the self is the perfect place to continue to gain polarization... it only makes sense.
(08-01-2010, 03:32 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: I don't subscribe to the whole theory because it postulates that certain families rule the world. And I don't consider physical families to count for much in this respect, because they cannot control which souls incarnate into those families. I just don't believe that all the family members would submit to the plans of their parents. Young people just aren't like that. They rebel.
Brain washing combined with STS traits (of a psychopath) cemented with threats of loss of power, security, and monitory income can do wonders. Doubt nothing is possible, sister, if the desire is great enough. When one speaks of moving mountains, it can be done.
There are several ruling powers in the world, but one has held the balance of power and still do. As to ruling the world... no they don't, but they have had considerable power for the last couple hundred years. They have been working towards their final push to polarize as strongly as possible, for they know just as we know, that where they ascend to is hostile.
(08-01-2010, 03:32 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:(08-01-2010, 01:58 PM)Peregrinus Wrote: Escape plans are not required, though of course they have vaccines against their released "outbreaks".
This presupposes vaccines work. Respectfully, statements like the above indicate to me a tendency to think the very same way 'they' want us to think. They want us to think vaccines work. They want us to think drugs solve problems. They want us to think modern chemistry has the answers. They want us to think that humans can dominate the rest of the planet, that humans reign supreme, can rape the Earth and kill the animals, and then a prick of the needle will save us from the death and destruction we have subjected the rest of Nature to.
But that entire premise is inherently flawed. They have believed their own lies if they think a vaccine will save them!
There is very little evidence that vaccines work at all, and tons of evidence about the dangers of vaccines.
Correct; the vaccines given to the masses are designed to do damage.
(08-01-2010, 03:32 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: I don't want to sidetrack this thread, so anyone interested in exploring the vaccine issue is invited to do so here:
Life on Planet Earth > H1N1 vaccine and vaccines in general
Also to not sidetrack, I only wish to emphasize that the vaccines given to the masses are not the vaccines which the manufacturers of the disease(s) have.
(08-01-2010, 03:32 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote:(08-01-2010, 01:58 PM)Peregrinus Wrote: I don't see this as what they think at all. I think they are doing their utmost to cause as much sickness and hardship and maintain as much control as they can until the harvest. I believe they will remove themselves from the illusion at that point so they maintain as much of this negative polarization as they can in their ascension. Choosing their own time and place of death is in itself a form of control, polarization.
Oh so you're talking about STS adepts? Masters so polarized that they can remove themselves from 3D at will? Or are you saying they will kill themselves (suicide)?
This presupposes that they are all awake enough to know exactly what they are doing.
Respectfully, dear friend, I think you're giving them too way much credit.
Respectfully sister, I think you underestimate them. They have been working on the plan on getting the world to being the way it is for hundreds of years, if not thousands. Because history was not recorded I cannot show points going back that far, but I will tell you one significant date... 5 October 1582. As for STS adepts, there are many, far more than STO adepts. This is why there are so many lightworkers here; to create balance.
(08-01-2010, 03:32 PM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Most STO Wanderers can't even do that. There have been only occasional avatars who could leave their bodies at will. Most STO Wanderers are fumbling their way thru life, shining the Light, yes, but not exactly totally in control of everything that happens to them. Why would STS masters be any different? How could anyone possibly know what they've got planned? I suspect that a lot of this is pure speculation on the part of those who fear them. The rabbit hole is as deep as we dig it.
Here's an idea: What if that's exactly what they want? What if they want us to think they have it all figured out, all planned out up to their very last breath?
This is not my desire and I hope to manifest a different reality, one in which this catalyst spurs mankind to awaken and move into the green ray, but as I understand it, and as we have spoken about, this is a blend of manifestation of the many, not of the one. Ever possible, but improbable, no?
(08-01-2010, 03:45 PM)Questioner Wrote: For example, in Star Wars, Luke honored his intuitive guidance about right and wrong, rather than letting others' opinions and technologies push him around. This is the very same issue on a cosmic scale that had let the Empire get so far out of control. The winning shot, taken by faith, corrected the imbalance in Luke's personal evolution, and also by his action corrected the very same imbalance in the outer situation of the universe.
I like this analogy brother
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(08-01-2010, 03:45 PM)Questioner Wrote: * At Harvest, 3D entities that have highly polarized to selfishness will be relocated to a 4D-negative STS planet, not necessarily Earth. In their new home, they will continue their own self-chosen explorations in the nature of enslavement, coercion, and manipulation without love.
Not necessarily earth? This is incorrect. Most definitely not earth. Without love? Again incorrect. In the case of STS, they love the self.
(08-01-2010, 03:45 PM)Questioner Wrote: Whatever they might remember...
Once free of the veil one remembers all of their past lives. Nothing is forgotten.
My apologies if I missed response to any points you deem important. It is late and I am tired and it took some time to reply to our dear sister
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