Harvest: Do The Math

[Monica]

Agreed that they are catalyst provided for by our negatively polarized brothers (I no longer call them "ruling" or "elite", for they do not rule anything other than their own person, and they are in no way elite).

Good point.

When the people wake up? Would not the more prudent term be "If" the people wake up. Many are, but still only a small percentage of the overall population.

Not everyone will wake up. Some will leave to another 3D planet. But many who aren't waking up consciously are still polarizing STO.

For example, I have some friends and family members who get their children vaccinated, are entrenched in religion, etc. and yet are still polarizing. I see it unfolding right before my eyes. They are waking up. Maybe not to the machinations going on behind the scenes, but they are waking up to love and compassion.

Isn't that what it's all about?

People stampeded like pigs at the trough to get their "vaccine" against the H1N1. They are in so much fear right now they don't know what to do with it.

On this planet? Hmmm....in my world, most people I know aren't afraid at all. They're just going on with their lives. Of course they are having health problems, financial difficulties, etc. but how is that any different? I remember, as a child, my parents had health problems and financial difficulties...40 years ago. It's just catalyst. That hasn't changed.

The people I know who are entrenched in fear tend to be my New Age and political friends. I could name a dozen people I know personally, locally, who follow Alex Jones, David Icke, et al and are heading for the hills, stockpiling food and weapons. Those are the people who are living in fear. Not the general population. The masses just line up to get their flu shots because they're told to do it. They aren't particularly fearful; they're just following their chosen 'authorities.' The are just doing what the doctors and preachers tell them to do, just as my parents obliged when the family doc told them to have their kids' tonsils removed. It's really no different.

Another thing which is causing problems is, of course, the 4D light. Because most have rejected green ray work and have fallen back into the complexities of the orange ray, the green ray light disturbs them.

Sure. That's where they're at. We'd be disturbed too if we were suddenly transported to the center of the Sun!

If you know people you can ask, but they do not know of the LOO or of what is really happening, ask them in some roundabout way if they feel like something is wrong. They will say yes, but they don't know what it is. I've asked... and always gotten the same response. You can see it in people's demeanor, their actions.

Back in the 1960s, my parents thought the world had become an evil place. In their minds, it was because of the 60s hippie generation! (What I consider a very positive thing.)

I know some fundamentalist Christians who think the world is messed up because of the 'secular' influence and because prayer isn't allowed in school. They think if the US became a Christian nation, we'd be 'blessed by God.'

People will interpret current events according to their paradigm. That hasn't changed.

The power elite use cell phones too. So do their children.

Are you sure? I have never seen a picture of a Bilderberg member holding a cell phone. Can you find one?

Well that must mean Obama is a good guy, because I know he uses a Blackberry.

I just did a search and couldn't find any on bush but did find a pic of former 'president' cheney holding a cell phone. (For what it's worth)

Do you honestly think the negative polarized and their family members eat GMOs, drink fluoridated water out of aluminum pots and pans, etc etc?

Yes, I do. I think they really believe the medical scam. They really believe that drugs and surgery are the answers to health.

Maybe some of them are savvy about GMOs and fluoridated water, but they certainly can't escape a plague. Viruses and bacteria aren't selective.

Also, fluoride is extremely difficult to remove from water. Fluoride filters cause other problems in the water. Bottled water puts plastic chemicals into the water. Distillers and reverse osmosis systems remove the minerals, thus causing other problems due to leaching of beneficial minerals from the body.

What about the chemicals in the environment? They still breathe the same air!

As long as they reside on planet Earth, they cannot completely escape the toxic substances they are supposedly subjecting the masses to.

Their children are not affected.

Do their children have friends? Do they have mothers? Will the mothers knowingly allow their own friends and loved ones to be affected? How far does their protective circle go?

This completely ignores human nature. Children tend to rebel. Look at how Presidents Nixon and Reagan had daughters who rebelled against the politics of their fathers. Just last week I saw something on the news about a woman who started a website entitled "dontvoteformydad" or something like that. She also ran a full-page ad in the local newspaper urging people to not vote for her father, because he was a horrible father and person in general.

Many of us incarnated into families that were entrenched in religious dogma. Some were abusive. Some were alcoholics, etc. Thus, we know that STO's can and do incarnate into messed up families, or even to STO parents.

Conversely, wouldn't it be safe to assume that STO's can and do incarnate into the families of the 'negative elite'?

I don't subscribe to the whole theory because it postulates that certain families rule the world. And I don't consider physical families to count for much in this respect, because they cannot control which souls incarnate into those families. I just don't believe that all the family members would submit to the plans of their parents. Young people just aren't like that. They rebel.

Escape plans are not required, though of course they have vaccines against their released "outbreaks".

This presupposes vaccines work. Respectfully, statements like the above indicate to me a tendency to think the very same way 'they' want us to think. They want us to think vaccines work. They want us to think drugs solve problems. They want us to think modern chemistry has the answers. They want us to think that humans can dominate the rest of the planet, that humans reign supreme, can rape the Earth and kill the animals, and then a prick of the needle will save us from the death and destruction we have subjected the rest of Nature to.

But that entire premise is inherently flawed. They have believed their own lies if they think a vaccine will save them!

There is very little evidence that vaccines work at all, and tons of evidence about the dangers of vaccines.

I don't want to sidetrack this thread, so anyone interested in exploring the vaccine issue is invited to do so here:

Life on Planet Earth > H1N1 vaccine and vaccines in general

For now, my main point is that I don't believe vaccines are reliable in the least, and any wealthy, powerful people who think they are, have fallen prey to the very same lies the rest of us have.

And in this is their power, their control, their way of polarizing, work specifically in the yellow ray whereby they force their desires onto the mass population.

True. But what you're leaving out is that they still get sick too...they still get angry...they still have inefficient utilization of catalyst, contributing (along with environmental toxins) to cancer...So what do they do when they get cancer?

They get chemo. They do the medical death thing. I doubt if very many of them drink wheatgrass juice and alkaline water and become vegetarians to treat their cancer. They use the same barbaric methods they project on the masses.

A notable exception is that the British royal family uses homeopathy. But I doubt if they avoid drugs and surgery altogether.

I could be wrong. I haven't exactly kept up with the medical treatments of the rich and famous!

I also agree that, at the root, there may indeed be some in positions of power who believe they have a sinister plan...who believe they have a magic vaccine at the ready for use when the global plague hits....who believe their alien friends will rescue them at the last minute.

I don't see this as what they think at all. I think they are doing their utmost to cause as much sickness and hardship and maintain as much control as they can until the harvest. I believe they will remove themselves from the illusion at that point so they maintain as much of this negative polarization as they can in their ascension. Choosing their own time and place of death is in itself a form of control, polarization.

Oh so you're talking about STS adepts? Masters so polarized that they can remove themselves from 3D at will? Or are you saying they will kill themselves (suicide)?

This presupposes that they are all awake enough to know exactly what they are doing.

Respectfully, dear friend, I think you're giving them too way much credit.

Most STO Wanderers can't even do that. There have been only occasional avatars who could leave their bodies at will. Most STO Wanderers are fumbling their way thru life, shining the Light, yes, but not exactly totally in control of everything that happens to them. Why would STS masters be any different? How could anyone possibly know what they've got planned? I suspect that a lot of this is pure speculation on the part of those who fear them. The rabbit hole is as deep as we dig it.

Here's an idea: What if that's exactly what they want? What if they want us to think they have it all figured out, all planned out up to their very last breath?

Their goal is not eradication, but the means of their negative polarization... which will result in such eradication.

If 3D Earth will cease being able to support humans, then there will be some natural means of humans leaving, which is the topic of this thread. I agree that the STS entities in positions of control have a hand in that. I just don't agree that it's all carefully planned and executed.