Does anybody here have an interest in macroeconomics?

[ScottK]

I like your vision of socialism, and it's what needs to be worked towards. 

We are probably talking past each other since we are really talking about two separate things.  I'm looking really closely at the transition from what we have now to something considerably better.  My timeframe is from 2 to 10 years out, as that is where the great challenge lies.  It's also where we still have a mix of STS and STO, where many things need to be built in to keep things fair.  So this is where the energies of the good guys are going to now.  The dark side is very deeply entrenched in the existing system, and very drastic things will have to happen to remove them.  No one has a magic wand to make that happen.

When people are virtually all thinking in an STO manner, the world will simply become a paradise and the economic system itself will reflect that - I doubt we would need money at some point - or at least, the need for money will be dramatically reduced.