(03-27-2015, 03:11 PM)Lighthead Wrote: As far as what you were saying about the US, any system where there is an elite that has control of most of the money is nowhere near any type of socialism. Socialism is, in a way, an eradication of the current economic system that we have.
Edit: Our current economic system is outdated. As the gap between the haves and the nots increases (in other words, as the middle class declines in numbers), and as the robots continue to displace workers, we will increasingly need a system that is beyond capitalism. And perhaps beyond any theoretical model of socialism.
Okay, I'll bite. What is this socialism that you talk about? So if you don't have an elite controlling the money, would it then be a democracy of the people controlling the money? So 55% could control the money, but what if you are in the other 45%? Or is there another way to do your idea of socialism? As I see it, socialism could work on a very limited basis where everyone in a smaller group agrees with the vision. A forced, coerced socialism is anti-free will - just a different form of tyranny for at least a minority of the population of a country.. Of course, I would be delighted to change my mind if you have a better idea.
Further, as I said in my earlier post, there is very little capitalism going on in the world now - all you really have now is large corporations acting as predators against the little guys who have good ideas. And we also have a debt based monetary system and tax structure that completely favors large corporations, and a legal system that favors those with money, in other words, large corporations.
What we really need is honest money and an honest legal system. That will act as a poison to much of the elite and large corporations, who have been playing fast and loose with the rules for so long.
BTW, this guy really knows what is going on: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVr1xIqsiDo