(03-23-2015, 06:41 PM)Monica Wrote:(03-23-2015, 05:48 PM)Minyatur Wrote: In my opinion wandering has more to do with understanding humans and their ways rather than to change this world. The positive impact is a byproduct of your learnings that your presence provide in return to what is provided to you.
Is Ra 'trying to change the world' when they answer the call?
With how much wanderers he sent on this sphere to polarize the planet positively and also work their imbalances seems the indicate it is the case, but that too would be part of his role and part of his spiritual growth as a 6D social/memory/complex. As above as bellow.
Here are some interesting Ra quotes :
Quote:18.5 Questioner: Thank you. I have a question here from Jim that I will read verbatim: “Much of the mystic tradition of seeking on Earth holds that belief that the individual self must be erased or obliterated and the material world ignored for an entity to reach ‘nirvana,’ as it’s called, or enlightenment. What is the proper role of the individual self and its worldly activities in aiding an entity to grow more into the Law of One?”
Ra: I am Ra. The proper role of the entity is in this density to experience all things desired, to then analyze, understand, and accept these experiences, distilling from them the love/light within them. Nothing shall be overcome. That which is not needed falls away.
The orientation develops due to analysis of desire. These desires become more and more distorted towards conscious application of love/light as the entity furnishes itself with distilled experience. We have found it to be inappropriate in the extreme to encourage the overcoming of any desires, except to suggest the imagination rather than the carrying out in the physical plane, as you call it, of those desires not consonant with the Law of One; this preserving the primal distortion of free will.
The reason it is unwise to overcome is that overcoming is an unbalanced action creating difficulties in balancing in the time/space continuum. Overcoming thus creates the further environment for holding onto that which apparently has been overcome.
All things are acceptable in the proper time for each entity, and in experiencing, in understanding, in accepting, in then sharing with other-selves, the appropriate description shall be moving away from distortions of one kind to distortions of another which may be more consonant with the Law of One.
It is, shall we say, a shortcut to simply ignore or overcome any desire. It must instead be understood and accepted. This takes patience and experience which can be analyzed with care, with compassion for self and for other-self.
This would apply in my opinion to any stage of spiritual evolution, it is always the fufilling of desires that is the willpower that makes reality manifest. Be it a Logos, Ra, a human, a dog, a rock.
Quote:12.26 Questioner: Thank you. Well, you spoke of Wanderers. Who are Wanderers? Where do they come from?Even Ra calls these desires a distortion.
Ra: I am Ra. Imagine, if you will, the sands of your shores. As countless as the grains of sand are the sources of intelligent infinity. When a social memory complex has achieved its complete understanding of itsdesire, it may conclude that its desire is service to others with the distortion towards reaching their hand, figuratively, to any entities who call for aid. These entities whom you may call the Brothers and Sisters of Sorrow move towards this calling of sorrow. These entities are from all reaches of the infinite creation and are bound together by the desire to serve in this distortion.
Quote:12.3 Questioner: Is there any effort by the Confederation to stop the Orion chariots from arriving here?
Ra: I am Ra. Every effort is made to quarantine this planet. However, the network of guardians, much like any other pattern of patrols on whatever level, does not hinder each and everyentity from penetrating quarantine, for if request is made in light/love, the Law of One will be met with acquiescence. If the request is not made, due to the slipping through the net, then there is penetration of this net.
Interesting quote about negative entities that can penetrate the quarantine if their request is made in light/love, same process Ra has to go through but totally different consequences yet still good in the eyes of Intelligent Infinity. I've wondered if the slipping part is actually true or Ra was simply unaware of how an entity got in, negative entities are creature that love to create misunderstandings in others, playing the devil. There's a few things like this I suspected like when Ra says negative entities do infrindge upon, wherehas if he makes mistakes and mess things up himself it is not infridgement. To me it sounds delusional to think having good intentions is what makes something not infrindgement. It would make more sense for me to think that Ra understands not the Light/Love in the presence of that entity.
Quote:7.17 Questioner: I’m trying to understand how a group such as the Orion group would progress. I was of the opinion that a closer understanding of the Law of One created the condition of acceptability moving say from our third density to the fourth in our transition now, and I’m trying to understand how it would be possible, if you were in the Orion group, and pointed toward self-service, how you would progress, say, from the third density to the fourth. What learning would be necessary for that?
Ra: I am Ra. This is the last question of length for this instrument at this time.
You will recall that we went into some detail as to how those not oriented towards seeking service for others yet, nevertheless, found and could use the gateway to intelligent infinity. This is true at all densities in our octave. We cannot speak for those above us, as you would say, in the next quantum or octave of beingness. This is, however, true of this octave of densities. The beings are harvested because they can see and enjoy the light/love of the appropriate density. Those who have found this light/love, love/light without benefit of a desire for service nevertheless, by the Law of Free Will, have the right to the use of that light/love for whatever purpose. Also, it may be inserted that there are systems of study which enable the seeker of separation to gain these gateways.
This study is as difficult as the one which we have described to you, but there are those with the perseverance to pursue the study just as you desire to pursue the difficult path of seeking to know in order to serve. The distortion lies in the fact that those who seek to serve the self are seen by the Law of One as precisely the same as those who seek to serve others, for are all not one? To serve yourself and to serve other is a dual method of saying the same thing, if you can understand the essence of the Law of One.
That's the quote I was looking for a while, Ra stating himself that both polarities are the same thing. Not seen from his eyes though, but still a fact he knows.