07-29-2010, 12:39 PM
(07-28-2010, 03:26 PM)3D Sunset Wrote: We haven't spoken in a while, I hope all is well with you and your family. What you touch on here is a significant point and one that I think causes much confusion. I will give my perspective, which is a distillation and integration of the words of Ra, Dewey B. Larson's Reciprocal System of Theories (RST), and some modern physics thrown in. I will omit reference to keep the post more succinct.
Hello 3D, it has been a while! Glad to see you come out of hibernation once in a while

I believe I now understand the manner in which you are describing the densities and dimensions, although it leaves me with a few strands of confusion that we can possibly work through. But first let me restate in my words what I understand you to have said to ensure we are on the same page. Essentially in our universe we have one space/time dimension. That is, all of creation spawning from the Big Bang (Octave?) is, as far as we know, all that there is, and within it is contained all s/t and t/s densities. We exist in the lower half of this seven density setup and are only aware of ours, second and first densities, however there are other celestial bodies that are invisible to us that may be 4th, 5th or 6th density. Since it all exists in our same space/time dimension, should a planet or entity move from one density to another it would happen in a linear fashion over the course of time. We also have the reciprocal dimension to space/time that is time/space, a bizarre Alice in Wonderland world where cats chase dogs, John Lennon couldn't play guitar well, and... no just kidding. Time/space being the balance to space/time in that it contains three dimensions of time and one of space (that is very hard to visualize!). This being where life reviews and planning takes place.
So assuming this is mostly correct, let me outline a few question marks.
- When Carla or other channels speak about there being X numbers of Earth existing as 3rd, 4th or other density numbers, what really is being spoken about are the states of potentiality / activation? In much the same was as we entities contain all seven chakras at the same time, and some may or may not be activated, so does a planet essentially contain the potential to express any density, but typically will just do one at a time and in linear order per spiritual evolution?
- Ra spoke of Venus having inhospitable 3rd density conditions to life such as we are familiar. Ra also states that it later became a 4th density planet, then a 4th/5th, then a 5th, and now presently a 5th/6th. (session 89). So what confuses me about this statement is that "the third-density conditions are not hospitable to the life-forms of your peoples. The fifth and sixth dimensions of that planetary sphere are quite conducive to growing/learning/teaching." (session 6) If a planetary entity moves out of 3rd density activation and in to higher densities, then wouldn't that sphere be invisible to us, being that we are 3rd density? It should fall in to the category of "dark matter" as our science calls it, and not be visible to us, much as we metaphysics fans assume that dark matter comprises other higher density matter.
- I may be blending material I have read from L/L Research and material I've picked up elsewhere (mostly Bashar) in my memory, but I seem to recall there being a point made about vibratory rates and the levels of density. I was going to include a fascinating quote but now I cannot find it... Basically Ra explaining how they appeared to the Egyptians as golden beings, invisible from the waist down as they lowered their vibrational rate to the pace of 3rd density space/time. This is not in conflict with what we have discussed so far, but I have not heard mention of vibratory rates relating to densities and just want to make sure I am understanding that correctly (for it sounds so very much like a dimension quality).
- Back to supposed dimensions quickly. I have read about how String theory predicts an 11 dimension universe. I know there is some debate about the correctness of String theory, but is there any reconciliation with Larson's theories, or the Ra material there? Just the other day I watched a short video of Carl Sagen explaining a Tesseract shape and how that would be representative of 4 dimensional space. So do you think there actually is a real, tangible 4th dimesion to space, or is a Tesseract simply a mathematical expression, not actually physically possible?
(07-28-2010, 03:26 PM)3D Sunset Wrote: What is interesting is that although s/t and t/s co-exist, they are actually reciprocals of one anther in every aspect. Existence in t/s is the antithesis of existence in s/t: Existence in s/t is composed of matter and in t/s is composed of antimatter, (where matter and antimatter are reciprocal particles created simultaneously). Note also that, due to the reciprocal nature of s/t and t/s, if matter is close together in three space, then it must be vastly separated in three-time. Similarly, where anti-matter is close together in three time, it is vastly separated in three-space. Thus you have the material components of s/t existent but not recognizable in t/s, and vice-versa.
This is interesting, I had not heard about this before. So things that are close in s/t and far apart in t/s? I am having trouble understanding this, possibly due to my difficulty of conceptualizing space as a scalar... but how can anything be "far apart" if there are not more than one dimension of space? Without those extra dimensions everything would sit on one single point (not even a line!) I have read that thoughts and dreams are time/space constructs, and if this is true then I *think* I can understand how this works, since I know from dream experience that I can move around, much as I can imagine doing the same thing if I close my eyes and think about it. Is this what you mean? But I can also be next to someone, and imagine myself being close to them at the same time, but perhaps I am paddling too far down the river after it has forked away from what you intended to convey.
(07-28-2010, 03:26 PM)3D Sunset Wrote: In retrospect, the phrase "free will only holds sway in s/t" is stronger than I intended, but not much so. Clearly there is a purpose for and substantive difference between existence in s/t versus t/s. Although I would agree that Free Will is involved in t/s existence, it appears to take the form of selecting experiences to better allow the individual to further his/her spiritual progress through free will choices to be made in s/t.
Indeed, I think it is best to say that spiritual evolution is only possible in space/time. Freewill I believe exists at all levels, it being the first distortion of the One. For what it is worth, I have read the two books by Michael Newton, a hyno-therapist who investigated the time/space world by relaxing his patients to the point of remembrance. Many a soul he describes being completely reluctant to re-take incarnation after a particularly hard life. Refusing to do so for vast stretches of time- and never being forced to at any point. Guides and friends would always recite the wisdom of going back in to space/time, and probably always make a winning case in the end. But the point is they are never forced- free will is paramount. Other entities some times take "vacations" on uninhabited 2nd density planets by projecting themselves there with thought. They probably appeared there as ghosts to our understanding. And others still simply spent time in their own time/space world, playing, learning, resting, bathing in the light of God and enjoying the companionship of those in their soul group, recounting the joys and sorrows of the parts they have played together. Everyone goes back for more lives though. As Newton puts it, it's not so much of a "you must do this" scenario as "I don't want to be left out of the party" one.
