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    Thread: Harvest - Instantaneous vs. Long Term


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    03-06-2015, 09:36 PM (This post was last modified: 03-06-2015, 10:58 PM by anagogy.)
    (03-06-2015, 07:24 AM)andreazzi Wrote: So, you agree that the 100-700 years period of transition could be the period in which the fourth density population is adapted to it's new conditions? Thus we would have a harvest in time/space and space/time around 2011 and then a period of transition in which third density would be suspended while fourth density population learns the means of it's new reality?

    As I said, that would be my guess, but I'm not so sure. Again, I cannot understand why you guys think harvest would be a time/space event, is there a quote from Ra or Q'uo that lays the foundation for this line of thinking?

    Q'uo stated that:
    "It is very difficult for entities to imagine how such a large population, all across your globe, could just shrink and disappear. And yet we say to you that entities moving into incarnation here will more and more be those which are dual-activated until finally, within say one of your centuries by most probability/possibility vortices, you will have no pure third-density entities living upon your planet."

    But, guys, really, is that what we see in the world today? This just doesn't resonate with me. To me, this statement implies some kind of evolution in consciousness brought by the dual activated children been born lately, but I just can't see this happening, I just see things getting darker and darker, lower and lower in vibration (please, tell me I'm wrong), though I am amazed how my own perception of reality has been raising in the last years, I do not see this vibration getting higher to most of the people, including children and teens.

    The 100-700 year mark is the length of harvest.  That, as far as I understand it, is the amount of time, roughly, it will take for evolution to physically manifest the fully fourth density mind/body/spirit complex.  Also, all who die during this time period, will walk the steps of light in time/space through the gateway of intelligent infinity.

    The reason why I believe harvest is a time/space event is A) I feel like it "fits" a lot better with what Ra said and B) also primarily due to this quote:

    "17.29 Questioner: Am I to understand that the harvest will occur in the year 2011, or will it be spread?

    Ra: I am Ra. This is an approximation. We have stated we have difficulty with your time/space. This is an appropriate probable/possible time/space nexus for harvest. Those who are not in incarnation at this time will be included in the harvest."

    Ra says that those who aren't incarnate during this time period will be included in the harvest.  Note that they do not explicitly say that those who are in incarnation will be.  The implication being that your spirit complex isn't harvested till the present incarnation ceases.

    Also, I don't put as much stock in the Q'uo transcripts as I do the Ra material, but I believe Q'uo has also stated that the steps of light are walked after incarnation ends.

    And yes, I disagree about things getting darker and darker.  I think that more and more people are waking up to spirituality every day.  But who is right?  Hard to know what life is actually like beyond our personal biases, but that is my current perceptual filter.  I think the process of transformation is going to sharply accelerate as more and more dual bodies are born, and psychic perception becomes a common everyday occurrence in the general population.  See how much violence there is when you actually FEEL the pain you cause others, and vice versa.  It is very difficult to cause disharmony in such an environment, and it will only increase as the transition continues to hold sway over the next 100--700 years.  It will be a great "aha" moment for us collectively.  This is the birth of 4th density empathy/compassion.

    Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of PHYSICAL effects of the harvest, but time/space molds space/time, and space/time is always lagging behind the time/space transformation which almost always occurs first.

    Anyway, that is my current view on the matter.

    (03-06-2015, 04:49 PM)darklight Wrote: I remember Ra said that early 4th density beings do not know how to hide themselves from 3th density beings, because they are probably not yet aware of their graduation. Can someone find the link in the Law of One?

    It could indeed possible that a minority is already graduated, but doesn't aware of that. Maybe, in some cases, time/space is not necessary...

    "62.29 Ra: You must see the Earth, as you call it, as being seven Earths. There is red, orange, yellow, and there will soon be a completed green color vibratory locus for fourth-density entities which they will call Earth. During the fourth-density experience, due to the lack of development of fourth-density entities, the third-density planetary sphere is not useful for habitation since the early fourth-density entity will not know precisely how to maintain the illusion that fourth density cannot be seen or determined from any instrumentation available to any third density.

    Thus in fourth density the red, orange, and green energy nexi of your planet will be activated while the yellow is in potentiation along with the blue and the indigo."

    To be honest though, I think once you are fully 4th density, you know full well you are 4th density, and that you have graduated from 3rd density.  And naturally, 4th density is invisible to 3rd density, but I think in the beginning certain things could cause you to lower your vibrations enough that you become semi visible to 3D inhabitants.  Uncontrolled thought, uncontrolled emotion.  After these are well established, the illusion is probably easily maintained.
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    Harvest - Instantaneous vs. Long Term - by Mystical Wisdom - 11-19-2014, 05:12 AM
    RE: Harvest - Instantaneous vs. Long Term - by Billy - 11-19-2014, 06:08 AM
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