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    01-11-2015, 10:35 PM
    (01-11-2015, 08:19 PM)Minyatur Wrote: I understand all of what you said but the question came to me from thinking about existence itself. There is a source because there is existence by why is there existence in the first place. I think therefore I am and therefore there is a Source otherwise I wouldn't be. But why is there an infinite energy to provide existence, nothingness would be the Void but why is there something else than Void. I feel there is something toward that way I need to seek and wonder about, something I may have missed long ago. This is a question I've asked myself in a deep state of awakening and I resonnated greatly with this question. The question I have seem to be why is there infinite energy. With no energy the void would be face-less but is that actually not possible or in a way the case.

    The answer I've come to, to that very question you are asking was at the beginning of my post.  Admittedly, your intellectual mind may rebel at the answer, and any answer may never satisfy the intellectual mind (the intellectual mind is like a little kid asking, but why, but why, but why), but in essence, the reason why there is something, as opposed to nothing, is simply because nothingness cannot exist.  There is no void, it is completely imaginary.  That's why there is existence.  There is only a plenum of infinity, which exists because it cannot be otherwise.  It has always existed.  Everything has always existed. Everything is already created.  What we call "creation" is just plumbing the depths of the substance which has always, and eternally, been there.  No change is actually occurring.  I've meditated on this very question multiple times over the course of my life, and every time, even in the deepest states of meditation, the answer is always the same for me: everything exists, because nothingness cannot.  When there is no nothingness, there can only be infinite everythingness.  Infinite energy, if you like.  Though, its not even energy as we understand energy, it is beyond that.  It is infinite consciousness.  Anything that has a beginning, will have an ending.  Because existence has no beginning, it will have no ending.

    There is no evidence for nothingness at all.  You can't imagine it.  You can't point to it.  There was no circumstance, ever, where there was a state of nothingness, and then, suddenly, by some inexplicable mysterious process, somethingness.  There has only ever been everythingness.  Consciousness explores hypothetical nothingness, insofar as it can imagine states of less and less experience of the Whole, and that is how the illusion we have come to appreciate as our reality comes to be, but it is created only by focus and identification.

    If this answer doesn't jive with you at this time, just throw it on the back burner of your mind, and perhaps in time, the pieces will begin to fit together.  I sympathize with how frustrating this question can be for the mind.  
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    Why? Why? Why? - by Minyatur - 01-11-2015, 02:08 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Parsons - 01-11-2015, 04:20 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by AnthroHeart - 01-11-2015, 04:28 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by isis - 01-11-2015, 05:10 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Stranger - 01-11-2015, 05:26 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by AnthroHeart - 01-11-2015, 05:30 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Minyatur - 01-11-2015, 05:41 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Minyatur - 01-11-2015, 05:32 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by AnthroHeart - 01-11-2015, 06:48 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Unbound - 01-11-2015, 06:59 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by AnthroHeart - 01-11-2015, 07:03 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Minyatur - 01-11-2015, 07:47 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by anagogy - 01-11-2015, 07:56 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Minyatur - 01-11-2015, 08:19 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by anagogy - 01-11-2015, 10:35 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Jeremy - 01-11-2015, 08:00 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Minyatur - 01-11-2015, 08:33 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Jeremy - 01-11-2015, 10:46 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Minyatur - 01-11-2015, 11:23 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Plenum - 01-12-2015, 11:49 AM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Nicholas - 01-12-2015, 03:52 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Jeremy - 01-12-2015, 04:57 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Diana - 01-12-2015, 06:03 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Jeremy - 01-12-2015, 06:37 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Unbound - 01-12-2015, 06:52 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Jeremy - 01-12-2015, 10:52 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Unbound - 01-12-2015, 11:32 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Minyatur - 01-13-2015, 02:50 AM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Minyatur - 01-12-2015, 08:58 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Learner - 01-11-2015, 11:24 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Minyatur - 01-12-2015, 03:07 AM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Fastidious Emanations - 01-12-2015, 01:28 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Diana - 01-12-2015, 01:53 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Fastidious Emanations - 01-12-2015, 02:00 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Unbound - 01-12-2015, 06:45 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Spaced - 01-12-2015, 06:47 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Sabou - 01-12-2015, 06:59 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Sabou - 01-12-2015, 07:04 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Stranger - 01-12-2015, 08:02 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Phoenix - 01-13-2015, 04:20 AM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Minyatur - 01-13-2015, 09:18 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Unbound - 01-13-2015, 05:45 AM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Infinite Unity - 01-24-2019, 08:51 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Minyatur - 01-24-2019, 09:19 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Infinite Unity - 01-25-2019, 01:53 AM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Cyan - 01-25-2019, 06:14 AM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Infinite Unity - 01-26-2019, 01:11 PM
    RE: Why? Why? Why? - by Cyan - 01-26-2019, 05:26 PM

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