(10-23-2014, 12:18 AM)SunlitDoves Wrote: I feel that we must discuss the relevant origins of the Mayan December 21, 2012 calendar's omega point. This is if we want to consider the belief system of what actually occurred that day.
Cutting through all the belief systems people attached to the calendars, the calendars are having to do with cycles.
The cycles have to do with the heavens.
This is not too odd. Today, even in such a spiritually asleep society, a year is often measured by the Earth's orbit around the sun.
So the calendars are very astronomical.
The mayan calendars also have mystical relationship to the heavens cause of their mayan ways.
So for the purpose of discussion it makes sense to relate astrology into here.
It also makes sense cause this thread is bringing it up in relative mysticism.
Astrology is fundamentally the study of the relationship of the heavens interaction with humans.
Astrology does not say that the heavens dominate humanity. Astrology does not say that the heavens create our karma.
Astrology says that the heavens are reflections of individual humans and collective populaces.
In other words, the heavens are beautifully mapping out our karma.
Karma is the consequences of our creation, nothing more or less.
A person cannot simply disbelieve karma unless they misunderstand it.
Let us say you study for a history test. The action is karma. Consequence is karma, two karmic consequences of studying for a history test can be that you memorize a lot and that you ace the test. Karma is like ourself made kinetic. (Apply newton's laws of motion to karma? haha)
So again, in relationship to astrology, the heavens do not create our karma. Ourselves create our karma.
There might be a karmic consequence as a time period of self-created high potential that our higher selves communicate to us through the heavens, but our willpower has choices to carry us through in whatever inappropriate/appropriate manners that our karma is really in alignment with.
Astrologically speaking, if we have not created the karmic momentum to ascend, the heavens will not miraculously cause it for us.
Saying the heavens is all that is needed to ascend would be like saying the history books will memorize the information for us without the involvement of our consciousness.
Astrology is like a karma map, but it is not like a karma lock.
People can transcend certain karma or all karma.
The heavens are showing that we are being given wonderful catalysts to growth by ourselves, but whatever we are has to be the prime creator of our reality.
I bring up astrology because to me that seems to be essentially what the shift imaginings are being founded upon.
Of course, they are not born through astrology.
But people tend to focus on the reflection more than the origin, so in sharing I have to share based upon where people are at.
So immediate ascension or gradual ascension has to do with the karma a human has created for their self.
Immediate ascension is possible, but it isn't arbitrary.
If ascension did not happen for a person or a populace, it means they did not do what is necessary to ascend.
A person isn't simply entitled to ascension because their outward identification thinks they want it. That is such an arrogant, assertive, ego trip.
A person has to embody and will ascension. The unconscious can be relevant.
So the people that are ascending are those that are ceasing their clinging to karma that carries them out of enlightening consciousness.
"Know Thyself"
Identifying with outward systems can be like a trickster.
"There might be a karmic consequence as a time period of self-created high potential that our higher selves communicate to us through the heavens, but our willpower has choices to carry us through in whatever inappropriate/appropriate manners that our karma is really in alignment with."
Nice
"People can transcend certain karma or all karma."
On Ascension itself. the idea of it was a great catalyst in itself, gathering further that spiritual momentum. Getting that awareness is key.. Hleped with my growth, i went on fruit diet and for weeks leading up to it, meditated as much as possible. Went away with to mountains for the Dec 21 with partner. I wast in mindet it would happen or would not happen but wanted to be in touch with any spiritual changes.
With your quote Jade..
"I can tell you that I had a very perceptible shift of energy at that time. It took a few months for me to process what had happened, but I definitely stepped into a different level of consciousness at the end of 2012. "Certainly was the case for me, at first I thought it was cause of extra effort I took spiritual before but as time passed I realised it was more..