10-17-2014, 11:25 PM
I never once said that the reason I eat meat is for the taste (although I do like the taste), so I don't really see why you keep bringing that up. I pretty clearly stated that when I eat meat it is because it feels natural and balancing to my body and vital energies, the taste is just a bonus (and even then, I certainly have times when I have no taste for meat.) Also, when I said wild game hunting, I meant in the context of for food, not for sport. Killing for sport is stupid.
It's unnecessary to destroy the body of anything, and just because the point of plants being sentient "has been addressed" doesn't mean I am in any way in agreement or satisfied with the explanations? Just because it has been address doesn't mean it has been resolved.
Also, you haven't understood my point if you are still suggesting I am attempting to "heal and transmute the animal's trauma" as that is not what I am doing with my practice and indeed doesn't even make any sense in the context of my practice.
For me, it is like picking up litter. Sure I can choose to just leave it on the ground and 'let the Earth take care of it', but I can also just as easily pick it up and put it in the trash. The planetary mind is full of emotional and mental litter, and I work to clean this up.
You are indeed correct that it is better to try and alleviate the trauma and suffering before there has been killing, by all means and that was included as part of the explanation of my technique so once again I'm not sure where you are getting your ideas from that I am only focusing on the eating and my own pleasure gained as such. (Which is really more just an enjoyment of sustenance rather than specifically being about meat.)
Also, if "paying the killer is a crime the same as the killing" is part of your argument, then everyone who pays taxes is guilty of killing due to the funding of the wars in the world.
I'm not even sure why the discussion goes this way, I thought STO was about thoughtfulness and consideration of others and I see it that we both want the same thing, for there to be less suffering, but instead we waste endless energy in debates and discussions regarding methods. How about we actually put our minds towards the actual issue of the fact there there are numerous PHYSICAL walk-to-able places where these things are occurring by physical people and we are instead living our day to day lives and chatting on a forum while these things are occurring. Guilty as charged here, I'll give you that.
It's unnecessary to destroy the body of anything, and just because the point of plants being sentient "has been addressed" doesn't mean I am in any way in agreement or satisfied with the explanations? Just because it has been address doesn't mean it has been resolved.
Also, you haven't understood my point if you are still suggesting I am attempting to "heal and transmute the animal's trauma" as that is not what I am doing with my practice and indeed doesn't even make any sense in the context of my practice.
For me, it is like picking up litter. Sure I can choose to just leave it on the ground and 'let the Earth take care of it', but I can also just as easily pick it up and put it in the trash. The planetary mind is full of emotional and mental litter, and I work to clean this up.
You are indeed correct that it is better to try and alleviate the trauma and suffering before there has been killing, by all means and that was included as part of the explanation of my technique so once again I'm not sure where you are getting your ideas from that I am only focusing on the eating and my own pleasure gained as such. (Which is really more just an enjoyment of sustenance rather than specifically being about meat.)
Also, if "paying the killer is a crime the same as the killing" is part of your argument, then everyone who pays taxes is guilty of killing due to the funding of the wars in the world.
I'm not even sure why the discussion goes this way, I thought STO was about thoughtfulness and consideration of others and I see it that we both want the same thing, for there to be less suffering, but instead we waste endless energy in debates and discussions regarding methods. How about we actually put our minds towards the actual issue of the fact there there are numerous PHYSICAL walk-to-able places where these things are occurring by physical people and we are instead living our day to day lives and chatting on a forum while these things are occurring. Guilty as charged here, I'll give you that.