09-26-2014, 05:45 PM
(09-26-2014, 04:49 PM)Unbound Wrote: Well, the main issue I have with your interpretation is that I don't see any reason to assume that the red-ray body is the only "visible" body, because if yellow-ray is a physical form we experience and see, then wouldn't we be perceiving the entire yellow-ray spectrum of sub-densities? If I was to use your interpretation, then I would still say it wouldn't be the red-ray aspect of each body we are seeing, but the yellow-ray, that which is consonant with our own activated body.
Excellent question. I will try to explain as best I can.
The reason why I say the red ray is the only visible spectrum is a result of my understanding that the the lower the vibration, the more outer and tangible it is, and the higher the vibration the more intangible and inner it is. As I said, every density contains all the rays, but they are focused by the true color ray's perspective.
So, as a 3rd density being, our perception is limited to the yellow ray density perspective. So, everything we see is yellow ray.
However...
We are physically incarnate. The physical is the lowest level of vibration (which is the most outer and lowest vibrational level, which, to my understanding is, as I've said, red ray expression). And that is the level of vibration our physical bodily senses pick up on. Everything we see in the physical world is the red ray subdensity of 3rd density (true color yellow). Even the lower density physical constructs (like animals, dirt, rocks, trees), because we are seeing all of it, every bit of it, through a 3rd density perspective, interpreting in a 3rd density, true color yellow, sort of way. Thus, we only ever see the 3rd density portion of the physical things we see. We see 3rd density physical.
So you are absolutely correct in that regards, we are seeing the true color yellow spectrum, but while physically incarnate, we are only seeing the physical portion of that spectrum, because as I said, that is all our physical bodies are vibrationally able to pick up on.
(09-26-2014, 04:49 PM)Unbound Wrote: All the bodies are made of light, so why assume that when we perceive a yellow-ray body we are only perceiving one of its sub-densities?
My personal, and intuitive understanding, is that each of the subdensities is a miniature of its native true color density. My understanding is that the lower the subdensity, the more tangible and outer it is, and the higher it is the more intangible and formless it becomes. I wish I had more Ra quotes to confirm this intuitive notion I have, but I don't, if I find one, I will be sure to share it.
It sort of just became apparent to me as I meditated upon the rays, and chakras, pondering the nature of inner and outer, and how everything is coalesced inwards, and violet ray is the apex of "inwards", and red ray is the apex of "outwards".
(09-26-2014, 04:49 PM)Unbound Wrote: From your interpretation it would make more sense (although still not total sense to me) that it would be the yellow-ray sub-density of the red-ray that is physically perceived, but then what is the point of Ra suggesting that the yellow-ray body is that which we perceive as the physical illusion?
As I said, yellow ray is the domain of *our* physical illusion (the physical part of yellow ray). But yellow ray also has parts that are *not* physical. And there are some quotes that support that, for example:
Quote:47.9 ↥ Questioner: Which bodies do we have immediately after physical death from this yellow-ray body that I now inhabit?
Ra: I am Ra. You have all bodies in potentiation.
47.10 ↥ Questioner: Then the yellow-ray body in potentiation is used to create the chemical arrangement that I have as a physical body now. Is this correct?
Ra: I am Ra. This is incorrect only in that in your present incarnation the yellow-ray body is not in potentiation but in activation, it being that body which is manifest.
47.13 ↥ Questioner: What stimulus would create what we call an Earth-bound spirit or a lingering ghost?
Ra: I am Ra. The stimulus for this is the faculty of the will. If the will of yellow-ray mind/body/spirit is that which is stronger than the progressive impetus of the physical death towards realization of that which comes, that is, if the will is concentrated enough upon the previous experience, the entity’s shell of yellow ray, though no longer activated, cannot either be completely deactivated and, until the will is released, the mind/body/spirit complex is caught. This often occurs, as we see you are aware, in the case of sudden death as well as in the case of extreme concern for a thing or an other-self.
47.14 ↥ Questioner: Well then, does orange-ray activation after death occur very frequently with this planet?
Ra: I am Ra. Quite infrequently, due to the fact that this particular manifestation is without will. Occasionally an other-self will so demand the form of the one passing through the physical death that some semblance of the being will remain. This is orange ray. This is rare, for normally if one entity desires another enough to call it, the entity will have the corresponding desire to be called. Thus the manifestation would be the shell of yellow ray.
So from these quotes it can be seen that yellow ray also has a nonphysical expression (as well as orange ray) as well, so it is not just a physical body. So this leads me to conclude there are portions of it that our physical and portions that are nonphysical, and perhaps variations in between.
(09-26-2014, 04:49 PM)Unbound Wrote: I just don't see how you conclude that red-ray accounts for visibility, especially if red-ray is the basic ray of structure and strengthening, how would that translate to what we see, considering all the bodies are light?
For me it is a matter of vibration. Red ray is the lowest vibration and so it accounts, in my experience, as gross visible tangible matter, and every vibration thereafter becomes less gross and visible and more subtle and immaterial, with the apex of these vibrations culminating in violet ray, which is the most subtle and the most immaterial of all the vibrations.
For example, orange ray is visible too, but only to inhabitants of the lower astral, pure yellow ray (and when I say "pure" i mean "yellow subdensity of yellow ray) is visible material to inhabitants of the middle astral, and pure green ray is material of a sorts only visible to inhabitants of the higher astral.
So each ray has its own substance. Orange ray is *like* physical matter, but it is matter of the lower astral, yellow ray is visible matter to the middle astral, green ray is visible matter to the higher astral. But the red ray subdensities of those planes is physically visible material.
Please let me know if I can clarify any of this further.