How can someone graduate to 4th in space time?

[manniz]

Folk-love, I hate to be the mystic but I am going to tell you what I honestly think and feel from you: You, I believe, are like me. You come here for recreation and the fun of it. You come here because you enjoy using your will towards service. You don't have to be here: You want to be here. You're eons upon eons old. You've played out the cycles of densities, expressed and healed your distortions and now you're working with what's left: You know who you are. You can handle much more pain than 99% of people and you come out enjoying it. You're a sixth-density being shoved into a hairless ape and you love it.

When you get on the other side, you're going to shove yourself back into another third-density immediately because you love the denseness and you love service. This is no sacrifice for you. This is what you live for.

I could be completely wrong but I feel you as I feel myself.

In short, you haven't moved on because you, deep-down inside, are having a very fun time here.

Thats a great post A1. So many spiritual seekers are gonna be surprised, when they find themselves volunteering again for this pain and suffering that they hated so much here.

Really? You think so? I feel like my spiritual lessons are finished, at least with what I can learn in a fading 3D.

Gemini, that was just a general, non-serious guess by me. I am sure there are many spirits, who do not feel the need to come back to the third density after graduation. Maybe, they are the more sensible ones, while others are foolish enough to want to forget themselves again, to approach life with vigor again, or to get depressed again to remind themselves how much pain can exist in certain parts of the creation (third density). Who knows. Though quite often, it is not the suffering and pain in the third density, but the dullness, lack of inspiration that gets you.

For all I know, you will go back to a nice, comfortable place after this life, say I am never going back to third density again. But after one millions years of evolution say, Dang it, I am going back again. Its all about change. Gemini, did you see my last post on your depression thread? There was a link there that I thought you may enjoy.

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Folk-love, I hate to be the mystic but I am going to tell you what I honestly think and feel from you: You, I believe, are like me. You come here for recreation and the fun of it. You come here because you enjoy using your will towards service. You don't have to be here: You want to be here. You're eons upon eons old. You've played out the cycles of densities, expressed and healed your distortions and now you're working with what's left: You know who you are. You can handle much more pain than 99% of people and you come out enjoying it. You're a sixth-density being shoved into a hairless ape and you love it.

When you get on the other side, you're going to shove yourself back into another third-density immediately because you love the denseness and you love service. This is no sacrifice for you. This is what you live for.

I could be completely wrong but I feel you as I feel myself.

In short, you haven't moved on because you, deep-down inside, are having a very fun time here.

Thats a great post A1. So many spiritual seekers are gonna be surprised, when they find themselves volunteering again for this pain and suffering that they hated so much here.

Why would you want to repeat a life of pain and suffering? I thought the whole point of pain and suffering was for learning purposes. I can't understand it outside of that view. Why would anyone actually want to suffer? It fucking sucks.

It does suck brother. For me, more than pain, it is the dullness and uninspiring nature of our current reality. Ra mentioned somewhere that on average about 60% of third density planets graduate positive as a whole planet, 10% as negative, and 30% are mixed like our Earth right now. So, maybe, not all third density is as dull as our current socities. So, probably those, who came back had higher hopes from their experience here.

Another big reason is harvest. I can see see souls thinking that this harvest is going to be a grand moment, lets learn mroe from it, or lets help someone - Ra mentioned that many wanderers are of the foolish/brave mindset.

And folk-love, its our individual experiences too. Even though life seems dull to me sometimes due to our modern set up, I was lucky to visit my Dad's village many times, before the modern civilization hit his part of the world. And, that rural world was actually quite peaceful. Close to nature, humans having genuine warmth for each other. Humans spending way more time with each other than the modern societies. So, not all third density is painful and depressing.

Another reason could be that by forgetting ourselves, once we die here and go back to after-life, we have a new found happiness (after the pain/dullness here), a newfound enthusiasm to learn beyond the pain and limitations, and we start our seeking afresh.

I like that you are being honest about your situation. Honest love is so much better than the non-stop light/love talk. Some of us may have come here just to experience that kind of honesty.