07-05-2010, 07:09 AM
(07-05-2010, 06:40 AM)Namaste Wrote: Thanks for the quotes, unity. I will re-quote to make this post easier to read:
Quote:The service-to-self adept will satisfy itself with the shadows and, grasping the light of day, will toss back the head in grim laughter, preferring the darkness.
Rs is talking in metaphors, and does not consistently define STS using words such as "darkness" and "grim laughter". An isolated statement used out of context.
notice that not even the metaphors involve fear.
Quote:Quote:The break becomes apparent when the entity perceives otherselves as other-selves and consciously determines to manipulate other-selves for the benefit of the self. This is the beginning of the road of which you speak.
This is describing the personal perpective/experience (or trappings) of how one chooses STS, and not defining STS itself.
it actually does -> you have said that fear underlies service to self. had fear been the cause of service to self activity, or service to self, the choosing mechanism would also involve fear.
Quote:Quote:The negatively oriented being will be one who feels that it has found power that gives meaning to its existence precisely as the positive polarization does feel.
Again, this is a description of the personal perpective/experience.
still same, if fear had been underlying basis of negative polarity, the personal experience of any given entity would also have to be based on fear and its peripherals.
Quote:Quote:It is aware of the full array of possible methods of viewing the universe of the One Creator and it is convinced that the ignoring and non-use of the green-ray energy center will be the method most efficient in providing harvestability of fourth density.
None of the above quotes specifically define the choice of STS or STO. In the context of our conversation, they have been used to support your understanding that choices do not stem from love or fear. I could equally use these quotes to support my understanding that all choices do stem from fear or love. They are open to interpretation.
firstly, opposite of love (as in 4d love) is not fear. it is love of self. love of self and love of others, or at least this is what we understand from what Ra describes.
secondly, again, something stems from something cannot be devoid of properties qualities or mechanics of its cause. and, while describing the choice for service self being made, ra couldnt have skipped the core reason, (if it was fear) and just jump to 'personal experience'. it is not the personal experience of any entity by the way. it is what happens to a negatively polarizing entity.
Quote:The quotes in my previous post on the other hand, are in context of describing STS and STO choices, and are both clear and specific. Let's have another look (this time will full excerpts)...
Quote:I spoke last night of intention, of moving away from the limiting concept of service to self and service to others—which is quite disorienting because service to others is service to self and vice versa—and to begin to see with clarity the ways that service to others springs from a ground of love and service to self springs from a ground of fear.[1]
When you begin to see the intention to offer love or to react to fear, to allow fear to direct your choices, then you can move away from the concept of service to self or other-self and towards the pure experience of “being service” or the pure experience of reactivity to fear.
The most important point to remember here is that expressing service through being service in love is natural to you. And when you do that, you are not doing anything; you are not creating anything. You are simply expressing your own true nature. When that nature is in full harmony with the external positive energy which may move through you, your energy to serve is magnified. At that point, you do not need to ask, “How can I best serve?” You simply choose the paths that lie right at your feet, whatever they are.
A clear definition of how all choices are based upon love or fear.
Quote:This is the crux of it: choice, responsibility. The being who acts in reactivity to fear, and thus acts in what we have called service to self and with the intention of harm of others, has either denied his responsibility and his ability to make a choice or is frightened of that responsibility and choice.
Again, a clear definition.
again, these are quo quotes and conclusions from quo. i would like to remind you here at this point that quo contact is not direct Ra contact, the speakers are predominantly latwii, and occasionally hatonn, 5d and 4d entities respectively (as far as i know), and Ra doesnt dictate their messages.
as i have mentioned before, i take Ra material over anything that comes from quo contact, if the question is based in fundamental principles.
Quote:Comparing the rays as an entirely different concept. The core element to understand is that we can choose how the energy flows (or not) concurrently through each ray, negative or positive - fear or love.
no its not an entirely different concept.
negative polarity is ignoring 4th ray, and using red, orange and yellow to contact infinite intelligence, then going to work on love of self, not fear of self or fear of others, in order to get to 5d wisdom, and again work in the same direction.
there is nothing related to fear or mentioned related to fear in these subjects in any part in Ra material. had there been any such predominance of fear as the reason for polarity, it would have been mentioned, at least once.
Quote:Being selfish is based upon fear
Controlling another is based upon fear
the above, which are traits of negative characteristic, are based on love of self. clogging of the 4th ray. they have no relevance to fear.
Quote:Appreciating another's traits is based upon love
Being generous is based upon love
irrelevant to subject at hand but i will refer you to the relevant Ra quotes on tying entire creation, existence, and creator to love wrongfully.
Quote:Notice how each example above is an exact mirror of the other; fear or love - STS or STO. The result is defined by the essence of the choice, regardless of which ray the thought is predominantly based. Hence, the root of the choice will effect the outcome.
i snipped various parts there, for they have no relevance to any kind of polarization, service to self, or service to others. being cowardly is not related to anything polarity. or, being aggressive. or, being courageous. there are aggressive negatively polarizing entities, as well as cowardly. there are courageous positive entities, as well as passive.