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    Bring4th Bring4th Studies Strictly Law of One Material Archetypes of Mind, Body, & Spirit The Star, The Moon, and The Sun in relation to the positive adept

    Thread: The Star, The Moon, and The Sun in relation to the positive adept


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    08-03-2014, 03:51 PM (This post was last modified: 08-03-2014, 03:52 PM by JustLikeYou.)
    ricdaw Wrote:The "significance" of the Sun card (significator in Ra-speak) is not a progression of Star to Moon to Sun. The cards are not progressive. All three Significators are stand-alone concepts.

    I agree fully. Just for the record.

    ricdaw Wrote:Hierophant = YOU. You are significant. Without you, what's the point of talking about this lifetime?

    It seems to me that this depends on your definition of "YOU." A common psychological model (the one that Jung embraced) is that there is an ego and a self. The ego is what you think of as yourself. The self is much broader and more encompassing than the ego (for the ego is within it). Although I tend to avoid copying and pasting disparate theoretical models upon one another, the parallel seems fairly close here.

    The Hierophant, as I understand it, is the incarnate self, the self which thinks, feels, acts, etc. It is a sub-logos in its own right, given the freedom to choose how it will respond to itself by virtue of the veil between the conscious and unconscious. This "little self," however, is not the only thing that we mean when we say "I." Those who have a requisite level of spiritual awareness tend to refer sometimes to the greater self, the self that perceives union of all with all, in the use of the word "I."

    ricdaw Wrote:Hanged Man = service/sacrifice. Actually, no it doesn't. The concept is that the Body has one and only one purpose, to allow the YOU of the Hierophant to exist and experience life here in the Earth Life School. The "significance" of the body is that it . . . is subservient to the Mind and the needs of the true significator -- YOU. You are not your body. The body is a temporary vehicle for learning. In every lifetime it services the larger needs of the Significator. The body is expendable. The body is temporary. The body is a means to an end. This is the "significance" of the Hanged Man.

    Agreed, though the body is also a part of me. It is the part of me that offers, or sacrifices, itself so that I may experience.

    ricdaw Wrote:Sun = All That Is. The card is not about achieving a state of enlightenment. The Sun is about God. God loves (shines) on absolutely everyone. Positive polarity people and negative polarity people equally. It is an "equal opportunity" god for all. The card is not an exhortation or reward. The card is describing the fact that the primary "significance" of God is continuous and absolute love for everyone all the time without exception. We do not achieve the Sun. We bask in it. Novice and Adept alike. We are offered all of it at all times. The card is not a reward for high achievement. It is our birthright from the get-go. And it is enormous comfort. No matter how badly we screw up, no matter how much we achieve, God's love is utterly unchanged and constant. There is no GREATER love/rewards for the highly motivated and high achiever. God's love does not favor anyone. The whole point of this card is unconditional acceptance by All That Is.

    This is where I'll really have to disagree. Whereas the Hierophant depicts the incarnate sub-logos, whose lifespan is equal to a single lifetime, the Sun depics the discarnate sub-logos, whose lifespan has is equal to an octave of experience. The Hierophant, then, is sub-logos to the logos that is the inner Sun, or Polaris.

    This Sun is not the One Infinite Creator, for the Logos is the manifestation of the OIC. The Logos is the focused Intelligent Energy which seeks to manifest the potential of Intelligent Infinity, which is the OIC.

    Thus, the inner Sun or Logos is the Godspark, the Atman; it is not the Godhead, Brahman. It has the properties you ascribe to it above, but it is individuated.

    ricdaw Wrote:[The Significator of the Spirit] is not a description of a person who has achieved a certain level of spiritual advancement.

    I agree and I disagree.

    The Hierophant depicts a person who consciously and carefully creates his own experience. The Hanged Man depicts a person who consciously and carefully accepts limitations and offers resources for the purpose of manifesting an experience. While these images do depict the activity of the Significators, they depict this activity without distortion.

    The activity of the Sun is to exist always in a state of perfect unity with the All, to be at peace with the self and therefore enlightened. As Ra says, "The crown is already upon the head." Although the Spirit always exists in this place, we do not always have access to this experience in a conscious and undistorted way. Thus, the experience of the Sun undistorted is a privilege won by spiritual advancement, despite the fact that it was always there whether you knew it or not. As the buddhists say, you are already enlightened; you just have to learn that you are.
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    The Star, The Moon, and The Sun in relation to the positive adept - by Plenum - 11-29-2013, 09:19 AM
    RE: The Star, The Moon, and The Sun in relation to the positive adept - by ricdaw - 08-03-2014, 12:20 AM
    RE: The Star, The Moon, and The Sun in relation to the positive adept - by Plenum - 08-03-2014, 08:38 AM
    RE: The Star, The Moon, and The Sun in relation to the positive adept - by ricdaw - 08-03-2014, 10:58 AM
    RE: The Star, The Moon, and The Sun in relation to the positive adept - by Nicholas - 08-03-2014, 08:13 AM
    RE: The Star, The Moon, and The Sun in relation to the positive adept - by Shemaya - 08-03-2014, 10:18 AM
    RE: The Star, The Moon, and The Sun in relation to the positive adept - by JustLikeYou - 08-03-2014, 03:51 PM
    RE: The Star, The Moon, and The Sun in relation to the positive adept - by ricdaw - 08-04-2014, 11:34 AM
    RE: The Star, The Moon, and The Sun in relation to the positive adept - by JustLikeYou - 08-06-2014, 06:41 PM
    RE: The Star, The Moon, and The Sun in relation to the positive adept - by ricdaw - 08-07-2014, 02:45 PM
    RE: The Star, The Moon, and The Sun in relation to the positive adept - by Plenum - 08-26-2014, 03:42 PM
    RE: The Star, The Moon, and The Sun in relation to the positive adept - by ricdaw - 08-26-2014, 06:04 PM
    RE: The Star, The Moon, and The Sun in relation to the positive adept - by JustLikeYou - 08-07-2014, 07:18 PM
    RE: The Star, The Moon, and The Sun in relation to the positive adept - by Unbound - 08-25-2014, 06:15 PM

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