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====Critical analysis of references====
===== Is this Series of Books Notable under WP:NBOOK? =====
As a series of books, this series of books can be evaluated under [[WP:NBOOK]]:
{{Quote|A book is generally notable if it verifiably meets through reliable sources, '''one''' or more of the following criteria:||}}
{{Quote|1. The book has been the subject of '''multiple''', '''non-trivial''' published works whose '''sources are independent''' of the book itself. This includes published '''works in all forms''', such as newspaper articles, '''other books''', television documentaries and reviews. '''Some''' of these works should contain sufficient critical commentary to allow the article to grow past a simple plot summary. This excludes media re-prints of press releases, flap copy, or other publications where the author, its publisher, agent, or other self-interested parties advertise or speak about the book.|Wikipedia Notability Guideline 1|[[WP:NBOOK]]}}
Since the notability requirement is for '''one or more'''<ref>[[WP:NBOOK]]</ref> of the criteria, satisfying section 1 would be sufficient to prove notability for this book. Therefore, I will start by proving that this series satisfies the first listed criterion.
===== Is This Series of Books Notable According to Criterion One? =====
The test in question:
{{Quote|[Has this series been] the subject of multiple, non-trivial published works whose sources are independent of the book itself?|Wikipedia Notability Guidelines|[[WP:NBOOK]]}}
With only a little bit of investigation I found a number of books, magazine articles, blog articles, websites, and forums discussing this series.
{{Quote|"Non-trivial" excludes personal websites, blogs, bulletin boards, Usenet posts, wikis and other media that are not themselves reliable. An analysis of the manner of treatment is crucial as well; Slashdot.org for example is reliable, but postings to that site by members of the public on a subject do not share the site's imprimatur.|Notability Guidelines|[[WP:NBOOK]]}}
So excluding all the websites, blogs, bulletin boards, and wikis, we are left with a long list of magazines and books.
{{Quote|Independent does not mean independent of the publishing industry, but only refers to those actually involved with the particular book.|Notability Guidelines|[[WP:NBOOK]]}}
'''How many books and magazine sources are there (i.e. non-trivial) that are not written by those actually involved with the particular book (i.e. independent)?'''
The answer is at least 17. There are ''seventeen (17)'' cited sources that count as ''non-trivial''<ref name="non-trivial">"Non-trivial" excludes personal websites, blogs, bulletin boards, Usenet posts, wikis and other media that are not themselves reliable. An analysis of the manner of treatment is crucial as well; Slashdot.org for example is reliable, but postings to that site by members of the public on a subject do not share the site's imprimatur. Be careful to check that the author, publisher, agent, vendor. etc. of a particular book are in no way interested in any third party source.</ref> and ''independent''<ref name="independent">Independent does not mean independent of the publishing industry, but only refers to those actually involved with the particular book.|Notability Guidelines</ref> and that discuss this series of books.
Seventeen constitutes "multiple".
Therefore, this list of seventeen sources meets the tests for:
* Multiple
* Non-trivial
* Published
* Independent
What other standards must be met?
{{Quote|'''Some''' of these works should contain sufficient critical commentary to allow the article to grow past a simple plot summary. This excludes media re-prints of press releases, flap copy, or other publications where the author, its publisher, agent, or other self-interested parties advertise or speak about the book.|Wikipedia Notability Guideline 1|[[WP:NBOOK]]}}
'''How many of these seventeen (17) sources contain critical commentary that would allow the article to grow past a simple plot summary?'''
The answer is: at least 7. I haven't yet tabulated all the critical activity surrounding this book, but at the very least there are seven (7) sources critically discussing this series of books. This standard for critical commentary is therefore '''met'''.
Therefore, this list of seventeen sources meets the tests for:
* Multiple
* Non-trivial
* Published
* Independent
* '''Some''' sources providing critical commentary.
Since a series of books must only meet ONE criteria to be notable, and this series of books amply meets the first criteria listed at [[WP:NBOOK]], this series of books is notable.
NOTE: Since only '''some''' of the sources must contain critical commentary, this does '''not''' exclude the non-critical sources from the test of notability. Uncritical sources '''still attest to notability''' and only '''some'''<ref name="Some">'''Some''' of these works should contain sufficient critical commentary to allow the article to grow past a simple plot summary. This excludes media re-prints of press releases, flap copy, or other publications where the author, its publisher, agent, or other self-interested parties advertise or speak about the book. --from [[WP:NBOOK]]</ref> of the seventeen (17) sources must provide critical commentary.
===== Incomplete list of the sources that meet the criteria necessary for establishing notability =====
* Each of the sources below are independent, non-trivial, and published according to [[WP:NBOOK]]'s definition of these words. Some of these sources present critical commentary.
# {{cite book
| last = Lewis
| first = James R
| authorlink =
| title = The Gods Have Landed: New Religions from Other Worlds
| publisher =
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| volume =
| edition =
| date =
| location =
| pages =
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| url =
| doi =
| id =
| isbn =978-0791423301
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# {{cite book
| last = Valerian
| first = Valdamar
| authorlink =
| title =Matrix IV : The Equivideum (IV)
| publisher = Leading Edge Research
| series =
| volume =
| edition =
| date = 1994
| location =
| pages =
| language =
| url =
| doi =
| id =
| asin = B008OJ2T5I
| mr =
| zbl =
| jfm = }}
# {{cite book
| last = Greenfield
| first = Allen
| authorlink =
| title =SECRET CIPHER of the UFOnauts
| publisher =
| series =
| volume =
| edition =
| date =
| location =
| pages =
| language =
| url =
| doi =
| id =
| isbn =978-1411667594
| mr =
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| jfm = }}
# {{cite book
| last = Mandelker
| first = Scott
| authorlink =
| title = From Elsewhere: Being E.T. in America
| publisher = [[Citadel Press]]
| date = 2000
| isbn = 978-1559723046
}}
# {{cite book
| last = Wilcock
| first = David
| authorlink = David Wilcock
| title = The Source Field Investigations: The Hidden Science and Lost Civilizations Behind the 2012 Prophecies
| publisher =Plume
| series =
| volume =
| edition =
| date =2012
| location =
| pages =
| language =
| url =
| doi =
| id =
| isbn =0-525-95204-7
| mr =
| zbl =
| jfm = }}
# {{cite book
| last = Knight-Jadczyk
| first = Laura
| authorlink = List_of_modern_channelled_texts#Laura Knight-Jadczyk
| title =The Secret History of the World and How to Get Out Alive
| publisher =
| series =
| volume =
| edition =
| date =
| location =
| pages =
| language =
| url =
| doi =
| id =
| isbn =978-1897244364
| mr =
| zbl =
| jfm = }}
# {{cite book
| last = Koven
| first = Jean-Claude
| authorlink =
| title =Going Deeper
| publisher = Prism House Press
| series =
| volume =
| edition =
| date =2004
| location =
| pages =
| language =
| url =http://www.amazon.com/Going-Deeper-Make-Sense-Makes/dp/0972395458
| doi =
| id =
| isbn =978-0972395458
| mr =
| zbl =
| jfm = }}
# {{cite book
| last = Tyman
| first =Stephen
| authorlink =
| title =A Fool's Phenomenology: Archetypes of Spiritual Evolution
| publisher =
| series =
| volume =
| edition =
| date =
| location =
| pages =
| language =
| url =
| doi =
| id =
| isbn =978-0761833567
| mr =
| zbl =
| jfm = }}
# {{cite book
| last = Wicherink
| first = Jan
| authorlink =
| title =Souls of Distortion Awakening: A convergence of science and spirituality
| publisher = Piramidions
| series =
| volume =
| edition =
| date =2008
| location =
| pages =
| language =
| url =
| doi =
| id =
| isbn =978-90-813047-2-6
| mr =
| zbl =
| jfm = }}
# {{cite book
| last = Cook
| first = Richard C
| authorlink = Richard C. Cook
| title =Return of the Aeons: The Planetary Spiritual Ascension
| publisher =CreateSpace
| series =
| volume =
| edition =
| date =2013
| location =
| pages =
| language =
| url =http://www.richardccook.com/
| doi =
| id =
| isbn =978-1479364268
| mr =
| zbl =
| jfm = }}
# {{cite book
| last = Gnosis
| first =
| authorlink =
| title = The Inner Planes. A Journal of the Western Inner Traditions
| publisher = Gnosis
| series = Gnosis
| volume = 36
| edition =
| date = 1995
| location =
| pages =
| language = English
| url =
| doi =
| id =
| isbn =
| mr =
| zbl =
| jfm = }}
# {{cite book
| last = Beachy
| first = Marcia
| authorlink =
| title =This Divine Classroom: Earth School and the Psychology of the Soul
| publisher =
| series =
| volume =
| edition =
| date =
| location =
| pages =
| language =
| url =
| doi =
| id =
| isbn =978-1418482824
| mr =
| zbl =
| jfm = }}
# {{cite book
| last = Redfield
| first = Dana
| authorlink =
| title =The ET-human link
| publisher =
| series =
| volume =
| edition =
| date =
| location =
| pages =
| language =
| url =
| doi =
| id =
| isbn =978-1571742056
| mr =
| zbl =
| jfm = }}
# {{cite book
| last = Free
| first = Wynn
| authorlink =
| title = The Reincarnation of Edgar Cayce?
| publisher = Frog Books
| series =
| volume =
| edition =
| date = 2004
| location =
| pages =
| language =English
| url =
| doi =
| id =
| isbn =978-1583940839
| mr =
| zbl =
| jfm = }}
# {{cite book
| last = Schlemmer
| first = Phyllis
| authorlink =
| title = The Only Planet of Choice: Essential Briefings from Deep Space
| publisher = Gateway Books
| series =
| volume =
| edition =
| date = 1994
| location =
| pages =
| language =
| url =
| doi =
| id =
| isbn = 1858600235
| mr =
| zbl =
| jfm = }}
# {{cite book
| last = Bishop
| first = Kitty
| authorlink =
| title = The Tao of Mermaids: Unlocking the Universal Code With the Angels and Mermaids
| publisher =
| series =
| volume =
| edition =
| date =
| location =
| pages =
| language =
| url =
| doi =
| id =
| isbn =978-1452500645
| mr =
| zbl =
| jfm = }}
# {{cite book
| last = Mandelker
| first = Scott
| authorlink =
| title =Universal Vision: Soul Evolution and the Cosmic Plan
| publisher =
| series =
| volume =
| edition =
| date =
| location =
| pages =
| language =
| url =
| doi =
| id =
| isbn =978-0970198501
| mr =
| zbl =
| jfm = }}
[[User:Bilbobagginsesprecious|Bilbobagginsesprecious]] ([[User talk:Bilbobagginsesprecious|talk]]) 21:20, 23 January 2013 (UTC)<small>— [[User:Bilbobagginsesprecious|Bilbobagginsesprecious]] ([[User talk:Bilbobagginsesprecious|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Bilbobagginsesprecious|contribs]]) has made [[Wikipedia:Single-purpose account|few or no other edits]] outside this topic. </small>
REFUTE THIS!
====Critical analysis of references====
===== Is this Series of Books Notable under WP:NBOOK? =====
As a series of books, this series of books can be evaluated under [[WP:NBOOK]]:
{{Quote|A book is generally notable if it verifiably meets through reliable sources, '''one''' or more of the following criteria:||}}
{{Quote|1. The book has been the subject of '''multiple''', '''non-trivial''' published works whose '''sources are independent''' of the book itself. This includes published '''works in all forms''', such as newspaper articles, '''other books''', television documentaries and reviews. '''Some''' of these works should contain sufficient critical commentary to allow the article to grow past a simple plot summary. This excludes media re-prints of press releases, flap copy, or other publications where the author, its publisher, agent, or other self-interested parties advertise or speak about the book.|Wikipedia Notability Guideline 1|[[WP:NBOOK]]}}
Since the notability requirement is for '''one or more'''<ref>[[WP:NBOOK]]</ref> of the criteria, satisfying section 1 would be sufficient to prove notability for this book. Therefore, I will start by proving that this series satisfies the first listed criterion.
===== Is This Series of Books Notable According to Criterion One? =====
The test in question:
{{Quote|[Has this series been] the subject of multiple, non-trivial published works whose sources are independent of the book itself?|Wikipedia Notability Guidelines|[[WP:NBOOK]]}}
With only a little bit of investigation I found a number of books, magazine articles, blog articles, websites, and forums discussing this series.
{{Quote|"Non-trivial" excludes personal websites, blogs, bulletin boards, Usenet posts, wikis and other media that are not themselves reliable. An analysis of the manner of treatment is crucial as well; Slashdot.org for example is reliable, but postings to that site by members of the public on a subject do not share the site's imprimatur.|Notability Guidelines|[[WP:NBOOK]]}}
So excluding all the websites, blogs, bulletin boards, and wikis, we are left with a long list of magazines and books.
{{Quote|Independent does not mean independent of the publishing industry, but only refers to those actually involved with the particular book.|Notability Guidelines|[[WP:NBOOK]]}}
'''How many books and magazine sources are there (i.e. non-trivial) that are not written by those actually involved with the particular book (i.e. independent)?'''
The answer is at least 17. There are ''seventeen (17)'' cited sources that count as ''non-trivial''<ref name="non-trivial">"Non-trivial" excludes personal websites, blogs, bulletin boards, Usenet posts, wikis and other media that are not themselves reliable. An analysis of the manner of treatment is crucial as well; Slashdot.org for example is reliable, but postings to that site by members of the public on a subject do not share the site's imprimatur. Be careful to check that the author, publisher, agent, vendor. etc. of a particular book are in no way interested in any third party source.</ref> and ''independent''<ref name="independent">Independent does not mean independent of the publishing industry, but only refers to those actually involved with the particular book.|Notability Guidelines</ref> and that discuss this series of books.
Seventeen constitutes "multiple".
Therefore, this list of seventeen sources meets the tests for:
* Multiple
* Non-trivial
* Published
* Independent
What other standards must be met?
{{Quote|'''Some''' of these works should contain sufficient critical commentary to allow the article to grow past a simple plot summary. This excludes media re-prints of press releases, flap copy, or other publications where the author, its publisher, agent, or other self-interested parties advertise or speak about the book.|Wikipedia Notability Guideline 1|[[WP:NBOOK]]}}
'''How many of these seventeen (17) sources contain critical commentary that would allow the article to grow past a simple plot summary?'''
The answer is: at least 7. I haven't yet tabulated all the critical activity surrounding this book, but at the very least there are seven (7) sources critically discussing this series of books. This standard for critical commentary is therefore '''met'''.
Therefore, this list of seventeen sources meets the tests for:
* Multiple
* Non-trivial
* Published
* Independent
* '''Some''' sources providing critical commentary.
Since a series of books must only meet ONE criteria to be notable, and this series of books amply meets the first criteria listed at [[WP:NBOOK]], this series of books is notable.
NOTE: Since only '''some''' of the sources must contain critical commentary, this does '''not''' exclude the non-critical sources from the test of notability. Uncritical sources '''still attest to notability''' and only '''some'''<ref name="Some">'''Some''' of these works should contain sufficient critical commentary to allow the article to grow past a simple plot summary. This excludes media re-prints of press releases, flap copy, or other publications where the author, its publisher, agent, or other self-interested parties advertise or speak about the book. --from [[WP:NBOOK]]</ref> of the seventeen (17) sources must provide critical commentary.
===== Incomplete list of the sources that meet the criteria necessary for establishing notability =====
* Each of the sources below are independent, non-trivial, and published according to [[WP:NBOOK]]'s definition of these words. Some of these sources present critical commentary.
# {{cite book
| last = Lewis
| first = James R
| authorlink =
| title = The Gods Have Landed: New Religions from Other Worlds
| publisher =
| series =
| volume =
| edition =
| date =
| location =
| pages =
| language =
| url =
| doi =
| id =
| isbn =978-0791423301
| mr =
| zbl =
| jfm = }}
# {{cite book
| last = Valerian
| first = Valdamar
| authorlink =
| title =Matrix IV : The Equivideum (IV)
| publisher = Leading Edge Research
| series =
| volume =
| edition =
| date = 1994
| location =
| pages =
| language =
| url =
| doi =
| id =
| asin = B008OJ2T5I
| mr =
| zbl =
| jfm = }}
# {{cite book
| last = Greenfield
| first = Allen
| authorlink =
| title =SECRET CIPHER of the UFOnauts
| publisher =
| series =
| volume =
| edition =
| date =
| location =
| pages =
| language =
| url =
| doi =
| id =
| isbn =978-1411667594
| mr =
| zbl =
| jfm = }}
# {{cite book
| last = Mandelker
| first = Scott
| authorlink =
| title = From Elsewhere: Being E.T. in America
| publisher = [[Citadel Press]]
| date = 2000
| isbn = 978-1559723046
}}
# {{cite book
| last = Wilcock
| first = David
| authorlink = David Wilcock
| title = The Source Field Investigations: The Hidden Science and Lost Civilizations Behind the 2012 Prophecies
| publisher =Plume
| series =
| volume =
| edition =
| date =2012
| location =
| pages =
| language =
| url =
| doi =
| id =
| isbn =0-525-95204-7
| mr =
| zbl =
| jfm = }}
# {{cite book
| last = Knight-Jadczyk
| first = Laura
| authorlink = List_of_modern_channelled_texts#Laura Knight-Jadczyk
| title =The Secret History of the World and How to Get Out Alive
| publisher =
| series =
| volume =
| edition =
| date =
| location =
| pages =
| language =
| url =
| doi =
| id =
| isbn =978-1897244364
| mr =
| zbl =
| jfm = }}
# {{cite book
| last = Koven
| first = Jean-Claude
| authorlink =
| title =Going Deeper
| publisher = Prism House Press
| series =
| volume =
| edition =
| date =2004
| location =
| pages =
| language =
| url =http://www.amazon.com/Going-Deeper-Make-Sense-Makes/dp/0972395458
| doi =
| id =
| isbn =978-0972395458
| mr =
| zbl =
| jfm = }}
# {{cite book
| last = Tyman
| first =Stephen
| authorlink =
| title =A Fool's Phenomenology: Archetypes of Spiritual Evolution
| publisher =
| series =
| volume =
| edition =
| date =
| location =
| pages =
| language =
| url =
| doi =
| id =
| isbn =978-0761833567
| mr =
| zbl =
| jfm = }}
# {{cite book
| last = Wicherink
| first = Jan
| authorlink =
| title =Souls of Distortion Awakening: A convergence of science and spirituality
| publisher = Piramidions
| series =
| volume =
| edition =
| date =2008
| location =
| pages =
| language =
| url =
| doi =
| id =
| isbn =978-90-813047-2-6
| mr =
| zbl =
| jfm = }}
# {{cite book
| last = Cook
| first = Richard C
| authorlink = Richard C. Cook
| title =Return of the Aeons: The Planetary Spiritual Ascension
| publisher =CreateSpace
| series =
| volume =
| edition =
| date =2013
| location =
| pages =
| language =
| url =http://www.richardccook.com/
| doi =
| id =
| isbn =978-1479364268
| mr =
| zbl =
| jfm = }}
# {{cite book
| last = Gnosis
| first =
| authorlink =
| title = The Inner Planes. A Journal of the Western Inner Traditions
| publisher = Gnosis
| series = Gnosis
| volume = 36
| edition =
| date = 1995
| location =
| pages =
| language = English
| url =
| doi =
| id =
| isbn =
| mr =
| zbl =
| jfm = }}
# {{cite book
| last = Beachy
| first = Marcia
| authorlink =
| title =This Divine Classroom: Earth School and the Psychology of the Soul
| publisher =
| series =
| volume =
| edition =
| date =
| location =
| pages =
| language =
| url =
| doi =
| id =
| isbn =978-1418482824
| mr =
| zbl =
| jfm = }}
# {{cite book
| last = Redfield
| first = Dana
| authorlink =
| title =The ET-human link
| publisher =
| series =
| volume =
| edition =
| date =
| location =
| pages =
| language =
| url =
| doi =
| id =
| isbn =978-1571742056
| mr =
| zbl =
| jfm = }}
# {{cite book
| last = Free
| first = Wynn
| authorlink =
| title = The Reincarnation of Edgar Cayce?
| publisher = Frog Books
| series =
| volume =
| edition =
| date = 2004
| location =
| pages =
| language =English
| url =
| doi =
| id =
| isbn =978-1583940839
| mr =
| zbl =
| jfm = }}
# {{cite book
| last = Schlemmer
| first = Phyllis
| authorlink =
| title = The Only Planet of Choice: Essential Briefings from Deep Space
| publisher = Gateway Books
| series =
| volume =
| edition =
| date = 1994
| location =
| pages =
| language =
| url =
| doi =
| id =
| isbn = 1858600235
| mr =
| zbl =
| jfm = }}
# {{cite book
| last = Bishop
| first = Kitty
| authorlink =
| title = The Tao of Mermaids: Unlocking the Universal Code With the Angels and Mermaids
| publisher =
| series =
| volume =
| edition =
| date =
| location =
| pages =
| language =
| url =
| doi =
| id =
| isbn =978-1452500645
| mr =
| zbl =
| jfm = }}
# {{cite book
| last = Mandelker
| first = Scott
| authorlink =
| title =Universal Vision: Soul Evolution and the Cosmic Plan
| publisher =
| series =
| volume =
| edition =
| date =
| location =
| pages =
| language =
| url =
| doi =
| id =
| isbn =978-0970198501
| mr =
| zbl =
| jfm = }}
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