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    Thread: The "Call" (for Help and to Action: Healing Ourselves and the Environment)


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    06-15-2010, 09:13 PM
    (06-15-2010, 05:05 AM)crystl37 Wrote: Ra clearly states here that the Law of One is equally available to either polarization, the non infringement on free will is the underlying law, STO entities create STS entities, they cannot be prevented.

    if you remember, ra also numerous times states that sts entities violate free will whenever they are allowed, enslaving the entities they can.

    Quote:However, service to others results in service to self, thus preserving and further harmonizing the distortions of those entities seeking intelligent infinity through these disciplines.

    moreover, this, in the case of the ~1600BC window that has opened and allowed in the negative outfit, as Ra says, the window was governed by a principle that was in higher dimensions. therefore, its becomes unrelated to any kind of natural law, or the nature of existence. it is a governed law, that is maintained by entities of higher densities, maybe even higher than 8th. the entities which are still learning, just as we, by the way :

    Quote:Questioner: What is the source of this random number generator? Is it created by the Guardians to balance their guarding? Or is it a source other than the Guardians?

    Ra: I am Ra. All sources are one. However, we understand your query. The window phenomenon is an other-self phenomenon from the Guardians. It operates from the dimensions beyond space/time in what you may call the area of intelligent energy. Like your cycles, such balancing, such rhythms are as a clock striking. In the case of the windows, no entities have the clock. Therefore, it seems random. It is not random in the dimension which produces this balance. That is why we stated the analogy was within certain limits.

    http://lawofone.info/results.php?session_id=16&ss=1#5

    Therefore, these windows that are 'balancing' the free will, are the products of guardians, sentient entities of higher densities.

    Quote:Are you saying that you think we have been free of Orion influence since the late 19th century?

    we dont have enough information, however we can speculate. there are numerous noteworthy points. one is the fascism episode in 1930-40s. i am vaguely remembering that Ra saying this was an experiment, but failed. however i couldnt find it after reading through and skimming for an hour and a half.

    whereas waves after waves of positive wanderers incarnating, i think any kind of negative influence would wane, (because they find it risky to incarnate to 3d), unless guardians allowed them windows of opportunity.

    Quote:What do you mean by it should not have been allowed? Allowed by whom?

    guardians, their other-selves as Ra puts it.

    ra says that in the case of 1600 bc window, that wasnt created by such a window, but the quarantine was not closely patrolled then. however, then that makes it a case of neglect, benign or otherwise.

    for, even if the call was not strong or mixed at that time, the patterns negative influence was able to set have hampered everyone's polarization :

    ie, positive entities couldnt polarize well because there wasnt freedom - everything was under hierarchical religious/political control. negative entities couldnt polarize, because the hierarchies they sat on top of required positive justifications for any kind of act, including negative. negative acts were committed, but always finding a positive justification first, and doing positive propaganda. positive efforts were made, but always hampered or their fruits stolen by negative controls.

    ( on another sidenote, this also encompasses the efforts of wanderers like st augustine, or wanderer-alike-natives like mother theresa - they incarnated in the hierarchical control schemes, and tried to do positive service. their service also furthered the hierarchical control scheme they were incarnated into, in that case, church reputation, support and control of the society. this, in following centuries was used more and more to control of the people. goes for any wanderers working with this world, with the exception of 18th century wave, the wave which includes thomas jefferson, benjamin franklin and many others. this time, the plan was set right, and instead of incarnating into and living in, therefore supporting the existing political/religious control schemes, these wanderers have changed the system, instigating revolutions and therefore firmly bringing forth the environment and principles that allowed our modern principles and ideals of freedom and expression, and even these channelings to be possible. none of what we talk about today would be possible in a pre-revolutionary world of 18th century, it would either be stifled by political elite, or religious elite.)

    hence that created a lock, a clogging of the polarization.

    it was wrong to allow that influence. even in the interests of balance. it is ironic that, 3rd density system that has been set by this logos (and various nearby logoi probably ) is based on polarization to one side, but the 'balance' mechanism that is employed introduces influence from other side to balance any kind of polarization, allowing the negative to enslave and subdue the positively polarized, therefore basically preventing polarization. a self conflicting mechanism, or two self conflicting mechanisms.

    entities should polarize towards what they want in a polarized system. forced balancing is illogical.


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    (06-15-2010, 10:36 AM)Richard Wrote: The world will play out as the world plays out. Just like it has done for thousands of years.

    world have not played out, is not playing, will not play out as it 'plays out'.

    there are infinite numbers of possibilities, and the fate of the world changes with any given point, with every choice made. there is no 'predetermined fate'.

    Quote:14.32 Questioner: Where did the information come from that Edgar Cayce channeled?

    Ra: I am Ra. We have explained before that the intelligent infinity is brought into intelligent energy from eighth density or octave. The one sound vibratory complex called Edgar used this gateway to view the present, which is not the continuum you experience but the potential social memory complex of this planetary sphere. The term your peoples have used for this is the “Akashic Record” or the “Hall of Records.” This is the last question which you may now ask.

    http://lawofone.info/results.php?session_id=14&ss=1#32

    Adding to this the information that quo gives, stating that earth we currently live in has been separated from the normal continuum in 1997 because there was too much orion influence, and it would join the time continuum in 2011 winter solstice, this means that the world changed its fate at least twice throughout history as we know ; first, from the time edgar cayce channeled the potential future to the time Ra material was channeled, second, 1997 timeline switch.

    that means nothing plays out 'as they played out'. entities make choices, and this changes everything.

    which is actually the summary of late 6th density to late 7th density work, from what i understand from Ra.

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    There is no predestined route, there is no predetermined fate. There are probable fates. If, an entity wills it thoroughly and strongly, and has the proper karmic, energetic, spiritual conditions to be able to live in a different timeline ( s/he should be able to handle the spiritual environment there, the violet ray should be compatible ), s/he can change his/her timeline.

    The same goes for earth, a 3d planet, therefore 3d entity, which as a mind/body/spirit totality through its societal complex in 7d.

    the ones which allowing earth to become an entity are us, the entities living on it. our collective resultant will vector, will determine the way earth goes, chooses.

    its making choice. its THE free will. its responsibility.

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    The "Call" (for Help and to Action: Healing Ourselves and the Environment) - by peelstreetguy - 06-14-2010, 01:36 PM
    RE: The "Call". - by norral - 06-14-2010, 02:57 PM
    RE: The "Call". - by unity100 - 06-14-2010, 03:25 PM
    RE: The "Call". - by peelstreetguy - 06-14-2010, 03:58 PM
    RE: The "Call". - by norral - 06-14-2010, 04:33 PM
    RE: The "Call". - by unity100 - 06-14-2010, 04:05 PM
    RE: The "Call". - by Eddie - 06-14-2010, 04:40 PM
    RE: The "Call". - by peelstreetguy - 06-14-2010, 04:46 PM
    RE: The "Call". - by unity100 - 06-14-2010, 05:08 PM
    RE: The "Call". - by Monica - 06-14-2010, 06:47 PM
    RE: The "Call". - by unity100 - 06-14-2010, 11:36 PM
    RE: The "Call". - by peelstreetguy - 06-14-2010, 05:11 PM
    RE: The "Call". - by Namaste - 06-14-2010, 06:32 PM
    RE: The "Call". - by Biu_Tze - 06-14-2010, 06:47 PM
    RE: The "Call". - by Monica - 06-14-2010, 06:59 PM
    RE: The "Call". - by peelstreetguy - 06-14-2010, 08:02 PM
    RE: The "Call". - by solitary - 06-14-2010, 09:00 PM
    RE: The "Call". - by crystl37 - 06-15-2010, 12:37 AM
    RE: The "Call". - by unity100 - 06-15-2010, 02:28 AM
    RE: The "Call". - by crystl37 - 06-15-2010, 05:05 AM
    RE: The "Call". - by unity100 - 06-15-2010, 09:13 PM
    RE: The "Call". - by Richard - 06-16-2010, 10:32 AM
    RE: The "Call". - by Monica - 06-23-2010, 08:38 PM
    RE: The "Call". - by unity100 - 06-24-2010, 06:33 AM
    RE: The "Call". - by thefool - 06-23-2010, 09:56 PM
    RE: The "Call". - by Namaste - 06-24-2010, 05:01 AM
    RE: The "Call". - by Richard - 06-15-2010, 10:36 AM
    RE: The "Call". - by norral - 06-15-2010, 01:39 PM
    RE: The "Call". - by Namaste - 06-15-2010, 05:50 PM
    RE: The "Call" (for Help and to Action: Healing Ourselves and the Environment) - by fairyfarmgirl - 06-23-2010, 09:54 PM
    RE: The "Call" (for Help and to Action: Healing Ourselves and the Environment) - by Monica - 06-23-2010, 10:29 PM
    RE: The "Call" (for Help and to Action: Healing Ourselves and the Environment) - by peelstreetguy - 06-28-2010, 02:51 PM
    RE: The "Call" (for Help and to Action: Healing Ourselves and the Environment) - by fairyfarmgirl - 06-28-2010, 03:52 PM
    RE: The "Call" (for Help and to Action: Healing Ourselves and the Environment) - by fairyfarmgirl - 06-29-2010, 02:39 PM
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