(05-15-2014, 12:10 AM)vervex Wrote: After reading the recent discussion, I would like to address some points and share some ideas.
We are all children of planet Earth, part of her ecology. Do we owe something to the planet for our existence? Does Earth expect payment or tribute from its children? Or does it freely give them life and a habitat to thrive in?
We all have parents and we were all conceived from our mother's womb. Do we owe something to our mother for our existence? Do mothers expect payment or tribute from her children? Or do they freely give them life and provide them with a place to live in until they are ready to walk the earth by themselves? What would you think of a case where a mother would request tribute from her children, a payment for carrying them, feeding them and raising them? Could this be called conditional love?
During our lives we all make friends, friends whose help we may sometimes require and ask for. Do we owe something to our good friends for receiving their help? Do good friends expect payment from their friends after doing them a favour which is freely given? In the case of requested payment, would this be called an act of friendship or a conditional exchange?
We all live in a form of society and we meet many strangers on the road. These strangers may provide us with various services, give us food and shelter at times. Whereas planet Earth, our family and our friends most often do not request payment or tribute for their help, the relationships we have with strangers are often based on a conditional exchange; many will request payment or tribute, with reason one could say, as they themselves have to pay for services, food and shelter.
I would like to offer an idea; we do not owe anything to anyone. We are truly free and the idea of earning a living, paying tribute and paying off debts is a conditional construct which allows individuals to live separately yet interact in numerous (but paradoxically limited) ways. Allow me to propose that if we were closer to each other and actually took time to know each other, free of fear and expectation, our society would most likely be very different; paying dues as a practice would become less common and perhaps be reserved to trading certain rarer commodities as individuals of a society would often share freely with each other in an unconditional manner, like family and friends naturally would. Allow me to propose that we work the way we do because we believe in a hierarchical system which reinforces the idea that we must constantly justify our existence and pay dues in order to be worthy of living in society. It is a self-sustaining system whose parts must pay to be part of it and whose work keep it alive. The more one works within this system, the more they are valued in society. While this idea/system is valid, I believe it is not efficient in building loving relationships but rather effective at encouraging individuals to compete with each other and judging one another. I have seen much of this in this thread in the past two days...
I believe unconditional love is both giving as well as receiving without expectation. And in a system where we unfortunately have to work to survive, payment would be a preference rather than an absolute. Perhaps rethinking the way we work and the beliefs we impose on others could be beneficial. Additionally, I believe unconditional love towards the self is just as important as love towards others; giving from a place of sacrifice and pain is denying the self which, ultimately, is no different than denying other selves. Are we not all one? One must look within and cultivate their own happiness if they wish to be able to radiate it outwards, or else risk externalizing their bitterness to others. Speaking from personal experience, looking within and pleasing oneself can serve as great balancing; there is no risk of falling to the "dark side" unless one convicts themselves to disregarding and hurting others in the process. In my experience, this phenomenon is quite rare and most of the hurt we experience in this world is due to confusion rather than true hatred.
That is all for now
Vervex, you are correct that the Earth experience is that of learning to understand universal love, and that universal love is unconditional love. This is why some of us do not understand Adonai's position, because no tribute is being asked of him in the first place.
However, the point must be made that 4D+ graduation is 51% and greater service to others, which necessitates sacrifice - the love of yourself AS part of oneness, over the love of yourself as separate from oneness. This is crucial.
Sacrifice must never be coerced. Giving to others while sacrificing yourself against your will, because you feel resentment toward existence for asking you to make such a sacrifice...that is absolutely to be avoided, I agree. Better yet, avoid thinking in such a fear-based manner, as you are thus focusing on division, which is disunity and a waste of time for your earthly endeavor!

Sacrifice to others out of love, now...that is the highest form of love, and that is why evolution to the point of feeling that naturally is the graduation to 4D+; mastering universal love 51%^ over love of the self.
Love of the self, by definition, is separation. Universal love includes the self, it does not exclude the self in any way. There is no competition!
The Choice: There is only Love, 4D Universal Love, which is Unity (STO), and Fear, That Which Is Not (STS).