03-02-2009, 08:34 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-02-2009, 08:57 PM by AwakenedOneness.)
Beloved Monica and All “Other-Selves”, I greet you in harmony and joy today I write this introduction part a day after I wrote the responses to your questions that follows.
Let me begin with the big picture, as I perceive it. This supercedes any more detailed explanations that follow which by necessity may be more confusing. Thus, whatever follows can be viewed through the lens of this overview: One is. All is One. We are the All (or Manyness) of Creator on an infinite journey through infinity within and creation without…simultaneously. On our journey we ascend to Oneness or Source at the top of the 12th inner world and then birth out into the next inner universe and begin again. It is a journey that cycles through “return to home/source/unity”. The return to home happens both in the outer and inner worlds. You might think of the inner worlds (inner Kingdom) as an infinitely complex matrix or holodeck for our consciousness and awareness to progress through for growth, ascensions and graduations of our Souls individually. The outer worlds can be thought of as the manifested creation (only some physical) where Souls resides and also journey while making their inner journey simultaneously. On the journey through the outer world (at least in 3rd D) we are veiled and confused, but with a perfect and divine purpose to that veiling (both of forgetting and confusion). When we as Co-creators are interacting in this world we are intentionally using these purposes. When we are writing to each other like on this forum, (or speaking to others), in actual fact we are doing several things simultaneously.
Our mental body may “think” or be conscious/aware of doing only one of these things...it is simply confused and unaware. While the mental body (or intellect) may believe it is attempting to eliminate confusion and have understanding of these grand wisdoms and topics we discuss…it is confused about the higher purposes really being served. Confusion is not eliminated by the intellect’s intent or desires…it is increased! Confusion is eliminated (enlightened) by the force of Will of the Creator as drawn into and utilized by the individual Soul! This Divine Will acts on you and through you to bring enlightenment/clarity by utilizing experience, which brings about increases in awareness and leads one back to Source. In incomprehensible and miraculous ways, it can even do this by utilizing the gift of intellect (or one may say ‘inspite’ of it’s limitations).
Thus, the degree to which an entity chooses to actively participate in this process and utilize words/intellect/study to go within for actual experience/awareness (as catalyst) is the degree that enlightenment (dropping of confusion) will occur. Conversely, to the degree an entity resists that process and attempts the folly of intellect to attain what it cannot attain…confusion remains. There need be no judgment about the choice of doing that however, as this resistance is itself a powerful tool. It will only draw ever more powerfully that which is resisted. This serves well. Another way to put this would be to say that when you are utterly exhausted of attempting the impossible…then you will finally surrender…the space and depth of your struggle to overcome confusion using intellect will then catapult you into a great space and depth of enlightenment through experience and awareness. Then you can even smile, laugh and see that from this new plateau…the whole thing was actually an experience unto itself!
And so, in reading (here or anywhere), if your intent and choice is for enlightenment, you must go beyond the intellect and words to get it. Practically speaking then, you can use them constructively as “food for contemplation in awareness” and catalyst. Just read, question within, lightly ponder and drift within…and see what awareness comes as a result. When the mind wants to race you back into logic and thinking and “tempt” you, you can and will either accept, ignore, or reject its offer. It goes without saying that whatever you choose to do is just wonderful It is also important to note that all of the above applies to the writer as well…who has the opportunity to work with writing from intellect, or trying to somehow channel awareness into words as best he may, knowing the words must then pass into the intellect of the reader and hopefully lead to experience and awareness…OMG what a challenge!
Here’s an original quote I wrote that seems fitting here, “For many years I struggled and struggled with a particular thought…I thought that if I could just get to that one powerful magic thought I would unravel all the mysteries of the universe and become enlightened…then one day I actually did…it was: “Just Stop Thinking!!!”
Try to recall it’s a game…just a game…a game with divine purpose, but we are “playing” my beloved. I love to play and am enjoying playing with you. Now, if you want to come play with yourself down the rabbit hole of intellect and confusion as it were, then read on and see how far down you can go! But, you can also come play the game of seeing if you can outfox the intellect and use inner experience through catalyst of words to climb out of the rabbit hole as you read. You can play one side of the table and then the other…you can play it however you wish my love. I’m playing a version called, “If I write the words well enough they construct a rabbit hole where all passages lead to awareness through exhaustion and triumph over intellect by using higher awareness to transcribe in words.” But, the rules of the game stipulate that no matter how well I play/write, only you can eliminate your confusion through choice…you must actively participate.
By accessing the gateway I was able to become aware that basically this post is also a demonstration of “no matter how well it is done/written, and regardless of intention, the inherent limitations of intellect/language cannot be fully overcome by the will of the author/Co-creator…they are only overcome by the choice and will of the reader/Co-creator.” I offer you (and any other reader) the opportunity to demonstrate: “No matter how poorly it is done/written, according to my intention and choice, the limitations and confusion have been overcome by divine will.” That’s probably as much as I can say about it without crossing the line of violating the law of confusion…and I may be pushing the line regardless.
Absolutely not! No, assessment and/or discernment is not the same as judgment at all. It is, however, a precursor if One chooses that response. I did not mean to say or imply otherwise. To the contrary, when One’s eyes are open they do “more accurately” and necessarily see/assess. One is well advised to use the gift of discernment and to use it as wisely and powerfully as One can! Assessment may be “accurate/based in truth” or “inaccurate/based on illusion/confusion”. After this precursor of assessment/discernment then something follows…a choice and/or response is made. It is: accepted/judged, ignored/entertained, or resisted/embraced. Assessment need not lead to a choice/response of judgment…but for some it often does…for others it leads to acceptance instead. Some see things clearly and judge them, some see them clearly and accept them, and some see them clearly and resist or ignore them. Some do not see them clearly and do all the same things. Some have their eyes still closed and do not see at all. Is that more clear?
Excellent question! Pardon me, I’ve just returned now from going outside for fits of laughter stimulated by attempting to type an answer to your question! LOL still! I just want to say thank you soooo much for that question Monica...it helped make my day! It sent me on a wonderful journey and revealed much in “my” awareness. After deleting my first response for the reasons in the note that follows, I made another…which gave way to the revelations and laughter fits. I deleted it too. All I can type now is: It doesn’t matter what I think. What do you think? Can you free yourself from all confusion? What is the only way you could do that? How long can you maintain it? Can you make it everlasting?
NOTE: I had typed a rather long and extensive response and some new news I was going to report on this topic when what you would call “STS monitoring/probing” occurred. “They” are so cute and funny…God bless “them”! Hey, when the Creator sneezes…does he have to bless himself? Has that joke been told before? I don’t know if I’m recalling it or just now “receiving” it. I decided to delete the full response, but saved a copy.
I cannot say for sure depending on which part of my sentence you are referring to, so I’ll have to take each one in turn. In my reading/perception of Law of One I did not perceive Ra to be judging STS as an evil/bad orientation in any way…quite the contrary. That is why I found it so refreshing I perceived him to assess it as it is. Ra did give examples of particular entities with atrocious (evil) behaviors, but for me I did not imply that to mean that STS orientation itself was evil or bad. For others it may have had that effect. I do not believe that was Ra’s intention though. I did read many generalizations (which are most always “wrong” – that’s a joke and to whatever degree anyone has generalizations and pre-determined associations they tend (if not must) project them from within onto the object. It is not for me to say to what extent Ra has done this, nor would it be “wrong” for Ra to do so. It simply is as it is. To the last part then, if you meant, “Is Ra confused”…well of course my beloved By residing on 6th D that goes without saying. As previously stated, only in Oneness is there no confusion - and 6th D is not yet fully Oneness…just much closer and less confused than those below. To admit though that one has a “bias” or “preference” or “alignment” does not imply, nor necessitate, judgment, as already related above in first response.
To your questions: no and no. Wasn’t saying those at all. For me, to disagree is a waste of time, energy and related to judgment and resistance. Resistance is futile, yet powerful in drawing the opposite of what One resists One can simply assess and discern and then accept/ignore…One need not resist what is offered by others, but certainly they may choose to.
Yes, just misunderstanding…no problemo, no forgiveness needed In re-reading, it’s hard for me to grasp what was unclear or how to make it more clear. I did try repeatedly and it just got worse. In contemplating your responses I may have come upon both the nature and purpose of your confusion…I’ll explain in next response. My perception is that I was attempting to distinguish between actions/behaviors and some implied direct connection to polarity…you put them back together again and thus confusion ensued. Also, I think I have an incomplete/confused understand of STS orientation/polarity that’s causing me to not quite understand what/who you mean when you use it. When I re-read and saw your response to the next portion, it occurs to me you already understand and agreed with that part, so just apply the same analogy of the child. In this part I was saying it’s the choice/action/behavior (and person?) that would be viewed as “bad/evil”, not the polarity. Hope that helps.
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To your first question: no. And to your second, no. Below Oneness we are certainly not the same, but beautiful snowflakes of individuation with multitudes of purpose. Even within STO there are multitudes of differentiations of Soul origins, purposes, and experiences. Earth is a “melting-pot” entity/soul wise…unlike many other worlds.
IMPORTANT: Please take my words in the context they were given…in response to many of the writings in the thread which appeared to me to contain judgments about STS in general and entities that choose the STS polarity as a path for their current incarnation (it may be a continuation of their long-time path My intent was to point out there is no need for such judgments…One can simply assess and discern the respective orientations without projecting “good/evil” onto STO/STS orientations. In short, that’s not where things that appear “evil/bad” come from…they are not inherent or intrinsic. Darkness serves the Light, it is only when darkness denies and resists this that appearances of “evil” result. It is not the “nature” of the darkenss, it is the “abuse” of it. They are side-effects and consequences of the entities actions and behaviors as they walk the path. They are the result of choices, not orientations or vectors of service/love. Preference and choice are “fine and dandy” (admittedly poor words implying judgment, but used for convenience sake). But, judgment is an insidious trap and thought form used by STS oriented entities to disable, distract and detour those on the STO path by creating and maintaining separation and thusly making growth to Oneness impossible whilst they are maintained. Again, my intent was to serve others to provide guidance as to how/why they could cease judgment about STS orientation and thus heal their own separation.
More importantly let’s try to get to the core here (as I perceive it). This will take some “time/words”, but may be worth the effort…depending. I think the best way is to take a specific example. Let’s take you Monica, personally, and your radiance of love. I think you would accept you are of STO polarity as an entity and previously stated that means some level of balance and is inclusive of STS in practice, right? Ok, now I’m saying STS is merely a vector or direction that you can choose where to point/radiate your love. As STO you would say you desire and have chosen to point it both directions…both to your Self and to Others. I very humbly and gently submit/offer this to you: You have more of a challenge loving yourself than loving others. You may have a slight “deficit” in your violet thermometer in terms of balance with your heart chakra due to lack of self love. The remedy to this is to use the STS vector to radiate/point more love to yourself Monica. By doing so you will not only increase the balance of your violet rainbow and thusly harvest/graduation probability, but also (as I previously said) be even more empowered to love others more radiantly. In short, your STS action of extending more love to self will increase your STO potential. As STO polarity overall, you are more inclined to do this, not out of desire to graduate, but the latter…your desire to more fully radiate love to others and serve them thusly. Beautiful indeed. See how STS action/vector actually is the “solution” not the “problem” in this case? It’s not inherently a “bad/evil” thing to serve self, it’s all about intent, how it’s used, and applied. It’s about the entity using the vectors and how they do it, not the vectors themselves. I admit again I was confused about the difference between service to self and STS polarized entities as concepts, terms and acronyms.
Now then, taking this personal example, perhaps I can make clear both of my initial statements: what I’m saying is that your lack of self love does not come from STS (actually it comes from lack of using STS action/absorption of love). STS is not some “source” of “bad” things to blame everything on. The lack of self love comes from dysfunctional thought forms, programming of lower natures, self-judgment, and life experiences. To dispel or cease the judgment you must also of course cease to judge others…if you are judging STS polarized entities, how can you do that? You cannot. And thus, if this is the case for you, you are entangled in a web you cannot escape until you let go of all judgment. Since All is One, if you judge yourself you will judge others, if you judge others, you will judge self. You cannot stop one without stopping both. All is One. If you hold judgment you will maintain separation…if you maintain separation you cannot return to Oneness…return to Oneness IMO is the greatest desire of an STO oriented entity…for it knows that from there (or as close as it can get) it can offer the greatest service to others. My offer to you (or anyone reading) is only to look within, I’m not saying this is “true”…that is for you alone to look at and discern: I perceive you to project interpretations onto my words that MAY be stemming from some fundamental confusion or judgment within yourself related to STS polarity and entities. I think that this confusion is coming to the surface to unveil to you a previously hidden or resisted judgment you yet hold. Your Soul desires for you to let go of it in order to end the separation within yourself it is creating and maintaining. You may use Free Choice, Free Will, Infinite Love, and Infinite Wisdom to release it whenever you desire or are ready. If it does serve this purpose for you, then all the time and words were well worth it my beloved…I’m here to serve I perceive that letting go of judgment about “evil” is probably the absolute hardest one to let go of…usually “the last judgment to fall away”.
If I’m just completely off base here about how it appears to you personally, then I’d say that at least it’s a good “general” example of things that perhaps any/all can make use of. I also can see that perhaps you may be serving as my mirror to do the exact thing I just described for me…if so, thank you so much! Could even be both. I trust both of our process with it. Certainly, it’s provided me an opportunity to sort and distill certain awareness of mine into the mental body…definitely a big thank you for that
Now, I do see that an STS polarized entity has quite a challenge in being able to vector love and light to himself to a large enough degree to graduate/be harvested. I do see that an STS entity has myriads of pitfalls on his chosen path due to temptations of manipulation, greed, power over others, etc. which may result in guilt, self judgment. – the affect being that the entity would then have enormous difficulty loving itself and thus be thwarted in graduation. I do see most probably “fall”, and the farther they “fall” their downward spiral into darkness and separation ensnares them further. An STS path must be walked impeccably with temptation abounding all the while. None-the-less, it can be done. I’ve seen it myself first-hand. It must be incredibly rare indeed. Maybe this was more akin to an STS path walked by one who was certainly not an STS polarized entity as you would term it. I’ve also seen a mid-life switch in orientation occur…all can choose each day…the Creator’s love, light, and door to Unity/Home remains always open. Regardless of how long walks away into darkness / independence, the Creator’s love and light shines upon their backs with eternal patience. I do see that the STS path is slower. NOTE: I wrote and had to delete a beautiful continuation down this line into higher awareness and realms revealed on the other side of the gateway…I saved it to a file for myself though. Here’s the ending: It is all perfect, divine, and as it is. It is all One…All are One…One is
Pardon me, but I’m still learning discernment in what are violations of the Law of Confusion (as I perceive it, though I never read it being explained in Law of One…was it on prior transcripts to those in the book?) I do believe it was revealed to me completely and perfectly none-the-less. For me, I’d put it this way: The awakened Adept or Co-creator has no desire and would not even dream of lifting the veil of another Co-creator about some awareness/revelation by use of words written or spoken. The reason is that the divine purpose of placing the veil is so that it can/will only be lifted by going through the gateway to infinity and getting the awareness directly. All the “great stuff” must be experienced directly in awareness…each soul truly desires to “get it on their own and in their own time”…for Self Mastery and their own divine purposes. Otherwise it shortcuts growth and experience…the gems we came to this planet for in the first place. Also, I think there is something about the Creator hiding things and a “failsafe” if you will. Like in Aladin where “only the pure/worthy” may open this. Thus words and mental transfers are relegated to function as I’ve already said…to encourage, support, inspire, guide, heal, prepare and assist others in going through the gateway themselves. To violate this is to (in my experience) incur what I call a “cosmic spanking”. It falls into the category of coming from abuse of power and self-importance. It serves only the self, not the other. Worse yet, it’s actually an incredibly offensive disservice to the other. Ouch! I’ve had enough spankings already I will endeavor to use detailed words only in relation to that which remains on this side of the gateway and my forays into it.
You have a knack for combining things I said the “evil guys” way of perceiving Creator doesn’t make “evil guys” really real. There are no “evil” beings. My “it’s not out there” wasn’t referring to that, it was referring to the judgments that make it appear so. I would not say/accept that duality implies judgment. It appears you made some weird connection between duality and judgment I don’t comprehend. Are these two connected in some way in your mind? If so, I strongly encourage you to untangle that mess or you will never be free. You may be confined to duality for a long time, but you need not be confined to judgment...remember it is the primary force of separation. Duality exists one step down from unity and below…you can’t change that…you can transcend it by returning home to the Source. But, judgment is always an option in every moment and something you create and choose. If there is no connection between the two in your mind, then please ignore me and pardon my “poor” assessment.
I concede that if One uses the word “not” then duality is implied/assumed, yeah even imposed. I already conceded English is a horrible language for discussing such matters…and also the mental body is really no place for them either…we are just playing with each other trying to do what cannot be done when we type to each other like this Monica…have fun and realize it’s a “game” that cannot be “mastered”, but we still want to improve our skills anyway and try to use them to encourage, support, increase desire, motivate, and serve each other Please try to see/read beyond the dualism and implied judgment of English to the intent and meaning of what I’m trying so hard to put from higher awareness into words and minds what just won’t “fit” there. I’m by no means near “perfect” at doing this daunting thing.
Finally! No confusion here on either side…nothing but net (agreement) I simply want to add though that although we can and do serve as mirrors for each other…I find what I call a “fine line” with mirrors. Some folks have a distortion about it IMO. Just be sure to know that often mirrors serve more to “bring up within you” emotions or responses, than to exactly reflect an “issue” or behavior that you have. I don’t have to wait until everyone is healed for me to be healed (individually at embodied or soul level…maybe the Creator himself in 1st person does haha) But I do have to wait until: no matter what they reflect to me, I only see them as Co-creator and respond only then with unconditional love.
The greater point you make is about the hologram. When you are fully aware of the hologram and work with experiencing it directly (and I’m not talking about intellectual knowledge of it) then you will realize the totality of what is within you. I advise all to proceed slowly and carefully with these intricacies. On both sides of the polarity within (light/dark) you will find challenges where you least suspected them and draw powerful lessons you may not be ready for in linear time/life…ultimately you are ready…but your worldly life may go into chaos...balance and patience are key here. Remember never to battle the shadow or darkness my beloveds!!! Darkness battles against Light. It is one sided and folly. Higher Light does not battle darkness…it accepts it, loves it, laughs at it, and transmutes it into Light or just watches it flee from it’s very presence and radiance. This is the way of the Lightworker.
Do you see any value in assessing qualities and choosing to not resonate with those particular qualities? For example, is Q'uo being 'judgmental' or 'confused' when they say "The STS path is a bloody path...We are not of those...We are of the radiant path" (paraphrased) ...? Is this confusion? Bias? Judgment?
I imply nothing. I discussed discerning early on, so that should now be clear that it’s more than cool! As to “rejecting”…it has a feel of resistance and seems to me the same. So I would say indeed I advise you to not “reject” any “other” as obviously you would be rejecting the Creator and thus yourself. Simply accept, ignore, or resist/reject as you choose. As mentioned, resistance is futile but valuable and only brings in stronger what you are attempting to resist. Which turns out to be wonderful in the end. Key: you can change your mind at any time and accept what you are resisting…it’ll be “less traumatic” the sooner you do, but it will be even more powerful and contain more growth the longer you wait…either way you win! I think I recall in Law of One there is something about when you “get the growth from the catalyst” the need for the catalyst is fulfilled and therefore you no longer need to magnetically attract an external experience to provide the growth. Apply that here to resistance and know that if you want ease in life, get this thing soon…or simply know and expect you will create a powerful catalyst of external experience to get it later. But when you truly get this is how it works…you can even laugh and have incredible gratitude for the “bad/tough” experiences in life because of the great growth and empowerment they yield. I laughed and gave great gratitude myself today for a whopper of an experience/adventure I created for myself. It looked and felt absolutely horrible…I could not fathom how/why I could create such a mess/experience…today I understand that perfectly and rejoice in it.
I intended to mean One can accept what is, and do so without judgment. If you put your statements and possible confusion in the earlier context of example to you personally, I’d humbly and gently offer that you are rejecting/resisting STS orientation as something other than the Creator playing with himself or architecting a divine creation. Thus will then draw it unto you in some form or semblance. If indeed you are doing this (again it’s just a thought I had…I’m not saying this is true for you), you are doing this with great purpose and reason Monica, IMO you want to drop your judgments and resistance to your shadow and so are externalizing them. Remember the hologram though Monica…and if you apply this entire post to the hologram within…you can get great growth by seeing that STS polarity and entities are perfectly mirrored to you by your relationship with the shadow within. You reject/resist them without due to what you hold within. Your Soul’s desire is to clean up the judgments of, and resistance to, the shadow within. They are your mirror. When you drop the resistance and judgment, your only response to STS polarity will be acceptance and love…this is how you will know you are “done” with it. As we said about which must come first…doesn’t matter…you can drop your judgments about “them” and the ones within about your shadow will drop…or vice versa, or simultaneously, or ebb/flow between. Given your strong STO orientation, I’d assume you’ll stop judging them and start loving them as service to others and then receive the benefit within yourself as a consequence. Given your person challenge of extending love to yourself, personally I’d advise the opposite and try a vector of self love this time…this may benefit your violet thermometer more that way Regardless of your choice, the outcome is the same. Besides, my advice is free and you get what you pay for
Assessing qualities? Yes, I see some value in that. I prefer to focus on my path rather than those in opposition though…but I’m not ignorant of them by any means. You cannot “choose to resonate” with qualities. You either do or do not resonate. What you choose is what path/orientation you wish to walk and how you do it. The statement is confusion, bias, and judgment…but not in the way you are asking me to answer Let me explain/expand:
The term “bloody” may be viewed as either a statement of fact / assessment, or as a veiled judgment depending upon the source…I will say it’s a very “loaded” and graphic word and will likely serve to conjure judgment and “negative” images in the minds of readers more that a different choice of words would have. Whether judgment occurs is up to the reader/receiver…if there is none within them…no judgment will occur in response to the word. If they hold judgment, they will likely project their judgment onto the use of the word and the meaning intended. This of course will lead to creation of a certain amount of separation and reduction in love for that reader. Personally, I would first give Q’uo the benefit of the doubt that judgment was not intended or present within Q’uo when the statement was made. If I read it, I would not see it as judgmental, I’d see it as fact. It would not move me from my love, nor increase my separation. They made a choice…while I’ll not judge their choice of words, if it had been me I’d have chosen a different word to avoid the potential for confusion and judgment to enter my reader’s mind in an attempt to spare them the separation that naturally results. I don’t judge their choice because I know that even if it brings up judgment in the reader…that’s a “good” thing because it will unveil a judgment to the readers who have them within so that they may be released and thus decrease their separation. It will have no affect on the reader who has no judgment. Ultimately it’s a choice they made, but it’s a win either way. Again, it does not matter, it’s all good, it all serves, the Logos Physics have a miraculous way of always resolving everything perfectly. Isn’t that wonderful? There are no mistakes, nothing can go wrong…umm how many ways can I say it? We can go round and round my dear, it will always end up the same: The Creator always wins It’s his creation!
NOTE: I do consider this one example of a limitation/shortcoming for channeled work coming from entities that have not incarnated on Earth and are unfamiliar with our language, judgments and experiences here. It’s a double-edged sword. Sometimes that allows us to go beyond our language…sometimes it has unintended affects. They also lack personal experience of our unique “melting pot” of souls and the prevalence of darkness upon the earth plane. From “there” it seems so simple/easy. They also seem less able to give practical advice on how to apply the wisdom in everyday life and to specific situations. This doesn’t mean at all I’m saying it isn’t wonderful and valuable assistance. But, it is why I personal chose my divine mission…to come down here myself, wake up, and be able to give similar wisdom, but combined with Earth plane experience and practical and applicable methods of implementation. But of course I wouldn’t have gotten to where I am without their assistance, and that of my guides and incredible teachers…5 of the most incredible teachers in all of creation I am eternally grateful and blessed to have them.
In general, if I read more and more from Q’uo (or any author or source) and found this to be occurring repeatedly, then I’d probably start thinking there was judgment present in Q’uo and it was coming out/through in the writing…as opposed to a “poor choice of words”. Again, I’ve no “problem” with bias as I understand the word…I relate to that word as “preference” or “favored choice”. As long as that choice is favored because it “feels better” or “resonates” it would lead to a state of bias. If however the choice is made because the alternative is “wrong/bad”, then that would be exercising judgment. and thus lead to separation. NOTE: I think I’ve only read 1 or 2 Q’uo things on the recent or weekly transcripts, so I’ve not much “feel” for it.
Exactly! That’s why I was pointing out that the judgment or perception of “evil ones” results in withholding love…which is not “ideal” or “desirable” to a Lightworker or STO entity. This is why STO entities must drop those judgments about “evil” and go beyond them to acceptance and unconditional love.
If I understand you right, then an emphatic NO, I’m not saying that at all…how could you perceive that from reading my words? Forgive the crassness, I do this for dramatic effect and to convey critical importance: you damn well better know the motivations and polarity of every/any entity seeking to influence you in any way!
I’ll go further than that. Awareness of individual Soul aspect normally confined to the physical embodiment and mind disengaging from mind/personality/body and moving completely into the 5th/throat/blue ray chakra which is a portal/gateway which then allows the awareness to travel or journey to other worlds and/or dimensions (Ra would call them densities) in any number of “bodies” commensurate with the destination. This can take one either to the 12 Inner Worlds/Kingdoms or to the 7 Outer Worlds/cretion. Technically they are worlds on planes and have dimensions within them. Some people use the words interchangeably. If one journeys for example to the 5th worlds / density which are etheric, they will utilize their etheric body (sometimes called the light-body) to do so as it is the 5th body. The awareness goes from the embodiment, then into and then “through the gateway”, (perhaps like water down a drain) and enters the etheric body which then may take flight. Commonly it is intercepted by one of the Soul’s council of twelve personal guides to accompany it on an “outer world” journey. You would be wise to pray and request this prior to any/all journeys. They likely always have one of them watching you anyways. But you always have free choice and guides don’t like to over-ride it. So, use it to give them permission. Sometimes the traveling body is seen and “intercepted” or greeted by others who sometimes volunteer as guides or teachers…hopefully that is. Other encounters may include what you would call STS entities. Mostly your guides and Soul control things such that you never encounter them…you simply don’t go where they are. I’ve never encountered one on 5th and above, I have encountered them. Fortunately, even if you encounter one you aren’t “messed” with or “battled” above 4th D…you may be tested, confronted, deceived or tempted however. You do have the option to “grab/hold” them and ask questions. There are many gatekeepers. They can be challenging. If you can’t “pass” them…you ain’t going on…period.
If One journeys to the inner worlds you have an incredible opportunity to actually travel into your own Higher Self directly. Obviously you may consult, contact and connect with your Higher Self while conscious in body and not journeying. This experience of actually going into it is quite different. You also can have the opportunity for the Soul Aspect that you are to actually re-enter the totality of your own Soul. There is also beyond that…and beyond the beyond ad infinitum. You may also move up/down through several bodies and densities in a single journey. You could also dispense with the words and descriptions of the various “bodies” and see it as just an increase in vibrational frequency…a flowing transition to appropriate frequency for the destination.
In particular, you will move back down through them all in order to re-enter your physical embodiment. Primarily this is done to allow integration, decoding and recall to be done slowly. …bear “in mind” that since this all takes place in awareness only, the brain and mind do not function there at all. Your awareness and consciousness are present in the moment, but the experiences are “decoded” and “remembered” in the mind/brain/mental body only as and upon return. You end up therefore with two “versions” of the experience…the direct one and the recalled one. Sometimes you can remember both, sometimes just the decoded version, and rarely just the actual experience which you then must attempt to decode/transfer into brain whilst conscious.
Fortunately, since you don’t have your brain to contend with and you are using higher bodies and higher awareness…all of this that reads quite complicated is in fact and in practice incredibly simple…even natural…it requires no “thought” or directing. Decoding is incredibly difficult and results in great distortions. Again, awareness and experience do not “fit” properly in the human mind/brain…they are only interpreted and translated there…and somewhat poorly at that. Recall is incredibly difficult due to this. Many likely journey and never recall or decode it into mind when they first begin. They benefit during conscious states as the awareness gain/experience basically “drops” in or “pops” in “out of nowhere”.
Journeying on the 4th D does not require accessing the gateway to infinity or going through it. 4th D is the Astral realm. There, One will likely encounter very “nasty” entities, there is nowhere to visit since you will only be in Earth’s Astral plane…other 3rd D planets will have their own…you can’t go there from your Astral body. I can confirm there are indeed battles there. Rookies do battle there…most often all recall is intentionally veiled and blocked by Soul so that trauma does not result to the conscious mind upon return. Also it is blocked so the entity does not relish or attach to the concepts of battle and begin to see himself as “good guy fighting evil”. Sometimes when people awaken totally exhausted and in a bad mood, and have no recall of dreams…this is precisely what has occurred. Lightworkers/Wanderers don’t want to go play on the Astral plane.
Within any density/level in the outer world journeys, you may visit any world or system on that level (given the experience to navigate of the individual and potentials of the guide). Also, provided you pass the gatekeepers. For example, whilst traveling in your etheric body you could go to any etheric or 5th D world. If you got into your spirit body you could travel to Venus and visit it’s 6th D “version” and consult with Ra directly. I have strong intuition that One may only journey to a level or density to which their Soul has evolved or graduated in the sum of it’s parts or perhaps your personal aspect/fragment. This may actually apply to only the Inner Kingdom or to the outer worlds, or both…I do not know. If therefore your Soul Aspect has only graduated to 5th D…you aren’t going to be able to journey beyond that. I do not know this to be fact. It makes sense that you cannot go beyond where you are. This description is only partly based on reliable sources, and mostly on personal experiences. The wording and descriptions are how I personally integrate and relate to it in my mind and I make no claims about any of this being “accurate” to how any other entity would describe it.
Perhaps my above description of through the gateway cleared that up…perhaps not. In short, I do not know if it’s the same definition. This topic can never be “cleared up” And yes, they all seem to use different words for same things and same words for different things. I will type up a bit of the description from the authority on the subject. If anyone can clear the matter up it would be him. Even he gives two different systems as they pertain to “The seven worlds of Ascension” which is somewhat simplified and relates to the outer worlds of creation that corresponds to the density system Ra speaks of, and “The Circle of Oneness illustrating the Spiral of Infinity”…kinda the map of creation as you journey it in consciousness within the Kingdom within. It is all one ultimately though and certainly strongly related or intertwined. It’s too complex to really “get” in words, but when you see the diagram it’s not too bad…still boggling though.
I relate and use the former and they go World ONE-Physical, TWO-Mental, THREE-Emotional (you can then relate that to our planet being 3rd D as containing the physical/mental/emotional body complex) then FOUR-Astral, FIVE-Ethereal, SIX-Spiritual, and SEVENTH-Soulic. After that it passes to the next “universe”.
The other one is based on 12 worlds, and refers to them as inner worlds of consciousness. But he says it is only an illustration and that “there are no mathematics to explain infinity” He also says things like: “Remember that there are worlds within worlds, systems within systems, universes within universes, and omniverses within omniverses. Everything spirals from the center of the Source and all worlds in graduated order—something like a loving chain reaction.” Each of the 12 worlds has 12 sectors within it for a total of 144 sectors. A single sector has 12,000 dimensions, 12,000 realms, and 12,000 degrees of angelic glory. The full description of it is a fascinating read. When you are done your head spins. Personally I gave up any need for any intellectual understanding of these topics and quite simply put: I don’t care anymore
I’ve pinpointed my soul’s location/progress and know where I’m off to next. I see where Earth is and where it’s going next. Somehow I can navigate the whole thing perfectly in awareness as I journey through infinity within and the worlds without, but have limited comprehension of any mental system to categorize it all in my mental body. That’s all fine by me and doesn’t bother me a bit It does occur to me that perhaps it’s just so complex that most channeled sources cannot describe it either…thusly they all resolve to give simplified “systems” or concepts for mental usage in our brains…none of them exactly accurate. The other alternative is even funnier…the channeling ones (not the authority of course) themselves can’t conceive/comprehend it, and don’t want to admit it
Honestly though, the best I can tell you is that the human brain has great difficulty imagining non-physical things. When you think “worlds” and “universe” you are going to picture stars and planets and galaxies because your brain associates those images in it’s neural networks associated to the words. When you think of entities you are going to picture some sort of body or form. Quite simply put: it’s just not like that! It’s more like an incredibly complex holographic matrix system of infinite complexity arranged in some weird spiral infinite loop toroid thing with interconnections between the rings of the spiral and lattices throughout. The entities are just little sparks of light that bounce around differently and appear differently depending on what ring of the spiral they are on. It seems the brain lacks any similar enough images or representations to allow you to imagine it and certainly lacks the computing power to comprehend it. You can observe and see etheric/light bodies though, but even they can change based on how the entity wishes to present itself…non-formed they look more like some modern art glowing string blob with an aura. If you read lots of Quantum Physics for a while, you can begin to start imagining it all better…but it’s a waste of precious linear time as graduation/harvest rapidly approaches. My advice though is to do as I did and simply ignore it. Infinite creation is just not going to fit into your brain…however you attempt to do so will not be “right”…in the end there is no “great” way to picture or describe the worlds, densities, dimensions, realms, planes and how they all interconnect.
I do not know what Law of One states regarding the “mission of Wanderers”. I have not read the Wanderer’s Handbook either. So, I cannot comment on that. Since I do not know, you may take what I say and compare the two and see if they match or not…and then accept/ignore as you see fit. If they are not Wanderers themselves, I would humbly suggest to you that I am in a much better position to comment on the matter…as I am one and have wandered far and wide for eons. I would say in general that we wander for a variety of functions, missions and purposes. We are, as all Souls are, as diverse as snowflakes my beloved. Generalized ones would include: advancement/evolution of our own growth towards unity by exploring multiple worlds and thusly gathering a diversity of experiences and opportunities for growth; collection and learning of specialize knowledge available on the respective and specific worlds that focus on them; answering calls to service and being sent on specific and divine missions by way of appointment by the Father/Mother Creator or certain other overseers or executives of universes (usually selected for, and drawing upon, that specialized knowledge and abilities attained in previous wanderings; active service to others and participation on worlds approaching graduation/harvest; pure fun, play, curiosity, and adventure; some are really into observation of how others go through experiences, but they typically do not “incarnate” to 3rd D to do so…they do exchange “protection” and “radiance” with the observed person in exchange for being able to “eavesdrop” or “watch”. This is by mutual consent. It all depends on the Wanderer my beloved. Some are just beginning to wander and Earth may be their first destination, some have wandered a fair amount, others have wandered long and far. You really can’t “generalize” a wanderer’s mission accept to say “to serve”, or more specifically: To love themselves, to love others, and to love what they do. They do tend to “awaken” faster than native 3rd D “people” and thus often help awaken others preceding graduation/ascension/harvest. This is probably a primarily mission/purpose for many current wanderers to Earth at this point in linear time.
As to: important to “ 'awaken' and 'access the gateway?” I’d say that it’s important for all to awaken. Depending on the specific wanderer and his/her mission it may or may not be important to access the gateway. Certainly if they do, they will be more “effective/empowered” in whatever they do…as would anyone who does so. For this wanderer and his mission, it was not only important to do so, it was critical to my divine mission…without access I would “fail” in my particular divine mission and several sub-components of it…as well as other parts of my master plan for this incarnation.
I didn’t mind all the questions at all. They were wonderful and powerful in effect for me at least. I hope they are for you (even if you were just testing/discerning me . I somewhat minded the responding part though It’s all a process and it’s all good. I would not have done it had I perceived no value in it. Remember my beloved that any of that “personal example” stuff that doesn’t pass your self-assessment and discerning…you just ignore it and treat it as if I was just talking in generalities. I personally don’t like it when someone “get’s me wrong” about some issue they think I have and then tries to counsel me about it…(didn’t mean to do that to you), though sometimes I find they are indeed correct and I was really just resisting and not seeing what I’d ignored within me for so long.
I sincerely desire Monica that it helped with your “understanding”, but more importantly for me is that it served you and/or others who read it to decrease their judgment and separation, increase their hope, faith, belief, desire, and will to go forth into action and experience of walking the direct path within…to where they find their own “answers” and to perhaps journey even further…leaving the busy mind behind and taking flight in awareness to explore the beyond…returning then to integrate that heightened awareness and experience into their embodiments and go forth in humble service to all as an expression and alignment of the Creator’s Divine Will…being forever about their Father/Mother Creator’s business…and fulfilling their Soul’s divine purpose and missions accordingly. Blessing to All as One. In Love, Light, Law, Life and Laughter – Awakened Oneness.
The whole response was nice Jeremy. Personally I think a better idea is to use two different words and thus end the confusion and quibble when discussion metaphysics. I did this in my response to Monica by using the alternate words she brought up: Asses and Discern. You can use others:
1) I reckon/discern/asses/see/think/say/estimate/guess that tree to be about 30ft.
2) Man that’s an ugly tree! (implied judgment)
1) I discern this judgment no longer serves me as it once did and choose to let it go.
2) Judgment is bad.
Let me begin with the big picture, as I perceive it. This supercedes any more detailed explanations that follow which by necessity may be more confusing. Thus, whatever follows can be viewed through the lens of this overview: One is. All is One. We are the All (or Manyness) of Creator on an infinite journey through infinity within and creation without…simultaneously. On our journey we ascend to Oneness or Source at the top of the 12th inner world and then birth out into the next inner universe and begin again. It is a journey that cycles through “return to home/source/unity”. The return to home happens both in the outer and inner worlds. You might think of the inner worlds (inner Kingdom) as an infinitely complex matrix or holodeck for our consciousness and awareness to progress through for growth, ascensions and graduations of our Souls individually. The outer worlds can be thought of as the manifested creation (only some physical) where Souls resides and also journey while making their inner journey simultaneously. On the journey through the outer world (at least in 3rd D) we are veiled and confused, but with a perfect and divine purpose to that veiling (both of forgetting and confusion). When we as Co-creators are interacting in this world we are intentionally using these purposes. When we are writing to each other like on this forum, (or speaking to others), in actual fact we are doing several things simultaneously.
Our mental body may “think” or be conscious/aware of doing only one of these things...it is simply confused and unaware. While the mental body (or intellect) may believe it is attempting to eliminate confusion and have understanding of these grand wisdoms and topics we discuss…it is confused about the higher purposes really being served. Confusion is not eliminated by the intellect’s intent or desires…it is increased! Confusion is eliminated (enlightened) by the force of Will of the Creator as drawn into and utilized by the individual Soul! This Divine Will acts on you and through you to bring enlightenment/clarity by utilizing experience, which brings about increases in awareness and leads one back to Source. In incomprehensible and miraculous ways, it can even do this by utilizing the gift of intellect (or one may say ‘inspite’ of it’s limitations).
Thus, the degree to which an entity chooses to actively participate in this process and utilize words/intellect/study to go within for actual experience/awareness (as catalyst) is the degree that enlightenment (dropping of confusion) will occur. Conversely, to the degree an entity resists that process and attempts the folly of intellect to attain what it cannot attain…confusion remains. There need be no judgment about the choice of doing that however, as this resistance is itself a powerful tool. It will only draw ever more powerfully that which is resisted. This serves well. Another way to put this would be to say that when you are utterly exhausted of attempting the impossible…then you will finally surrender…the space and depth of your struggle to overcome confusion using intellect will then catapult you into a great space and depth of enlightenment through experience and awareness. Then you can even smile, laugh and see that from this new plateau…the whole thing was actually an experience unto itself!
And so, in reading (here or anywhere), if your intent and choice is for enlightenment, you must go beyond the intellect and words to get it. Practically speaking then, you can use them constructively as “food for contemplation in awareness” and catalyst. Just read, question within, lightly ponder and drift within…and see what awareness comes as a result. When the mind wants to race you back into logic and thinking and “tempt” you, you can and will either accept, ignore, or reject its offer. It goes without saying that whatever you choose to do is just wonderful It is also important to note that all of the above applies to the writer as well…who has the opportunity to work with writing from intellect, or trying to somehow channel awareness into words as best he may, knowing the words must then pass into the intellect of the reader and hopefully lead to experience and awareness…OMG what a challenge!
Here’s an original quote I wrote that seems fitting here, “For many years I struggled and struggled with a particular thought…I thought that if I could just get to that one powerful magic thought I would unravel all the mysteries of the universe and become enlightened…then one day I actually did…it was: “Just Stop Thinking!!!”
Try to recall it’s a game…just a game…a game with divine purpose, but we are “playing” my beloved. I love to play and am enjoying playing with you. Now, if you want to come play with yourself down the rabbit hole of intellect and confusion as it were, then read on and see how far down you can go! But, you can also come play the game of seeing if you can outfox the intellect and use inner experience through catalyst of words to climb out of the rabbit hole as you read. You can play one side of the table and then the other…you can play it however you wish my love. I’m playing a version called, “If I write the words well enough they construct a rabbit hole where all passages lead to awareness through exhaustion and triumph over intellect by using higher awareness to transcribe in words.” But, the rules of the game stipulate that no matter how well I play/write, only you can eliminate your confusion through choice…you must actively participate.
By accessing the gateway I was able to become aware that basically this post is also a demonstration of “no matter how well it is done/written, and regardless of intention, the inherent limitations of intellect/language cannot be fully overcome by the will of the author/Co-creator…they are only overcome by the choice and will of the reader/Co-creator.” I offer you (and any other reader) the opportunity to demonstrate: “No matter how poorly it is done/written, according to my intention and choice, the limitations and confusion have been overcome by divine will.” That’s probably as much as I can say about it without crossing the line of violating the law of confusion…and I may be pushing the line regardless.
(03-01-2009, 02:21 AM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Do you think that assessing something as being energetically STS or STO is the same as judging? Do you see any value in making any assessments, or do you see all assessments as judgment?
Absolutely not! No, assessment and/or discernment is not the same as judgment at all. It is, however, a precursor if One chooses that response. I did not mean to say or imply otherwise. To the contrary, when One’s eyes are open they do “more accurately” and necessarily see/assess. One is well advised to use the gift of discernment and to use it as wisely and powerfully as One can! Assessment may be “accurate/based in truth” or “inaccurate/based on illusion/confusion”. After this precursor of assessment/discernment then something follows…a choice and/or response is made. It is: accepted/judged, ignored/entertained, or resisted/embraced. Assessment need not lead to a choice/response of judgment…but for some it often does…for others it leads to acceptance instead. Some see things clearly and judge them, some see them clearly and accept them, and some see them clearly and resist or ignore them. Some do not see them clearly and do all the same things. Some have their eyes still closed and do not see at all. Is that more clear?
(03-01-2009, 02:21 AM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Do you think that anyone (who is incarnate in 3D) is truly free of all confusion?
Excellent question! Pardon me, I’ve just returned now from going outside for fits of laughter stimulated by attempting to type an answer to your question! LOL still! I just want to say thank you soooo much for that question Monica...it helped make my day! It sent me on a wonderful journey and revealed much in “my” awareness. After deleting my first response for the reasons in the note that follows, I made another…which gave way to the revelations and laughter fits. I deleted it too. All I can type now is: It doesn’t matter what I think. What do you think? Can you free yourself from all confusion? What is the only way you could do that? How long can you maintain it? Can you make it everlasting?
NOTE: I had typed a rather long and extensive response and some new news I was going to report on this topic when what you would call “STS monitoring/probing” occurred. “They” are so cute and funny…God bless “them”! Hey, when the Creator sneezes…does he have to bless himself? Has that joke been told before? I don’t know if I’m recalling it or just now “receiving” it. I decided to delete the full response, but saved a copy.
(02-28-2009, 07:58 AM)AwakenedOneness Wrote: Therefore, if someone thinks STS as an orientation in and of itself is bad/evil or has pre-determined associations and generalizations about that, then it is WITHIN THEM and being projected outward. More simply put: they are just confused.
(03-01-2009, 02:21 AM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Do you think this includes Ra?
I cannot say for sure depending on which part of my sentence you are referring to, so I’ll have to take each one in turn. In my reading/perception of Law of One I did not perceive Ra to be judging STS as an evil/bad orientation in any way…quite the contrary. That is why I found it so refreshing I perceived him to assess it as it is. Ra did give examples of particular entities with atrocious (evil) behaviors, but for me I did not imply that to mean that STS orientation itself was evil or bad. For others it may have had that effect. I do not believe that was Ra’s intention though. I did read many generalizations (which are most always “wrong” – that’s a joke and to whatever degree anyone has generalizations and pre-determined associations they tend (if not must) project them from within onto the object. It is not for me to say to what extent Ra has done this, nor would it be “wrong” for Ra to do so. It simply is as it is. To the last part then, if you meant, “Is Ra confused”…well of course my beloved By residing on 6th D that goes without saying. As previously stated, only in Oneness is there no confusion - and 6th D is not yet fully Oneness…just much closer and less confused than those below. To admit though that one has a “bias” or “preference” or “alignment” does not imply, nor necessitate, judgment, as already related above in first response.
(03-01-2009, 02:21 AM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Forgive me if I'm not fully understanding you...but can you please clarify? Are you saying that you disagree with Ra's assertion that we must choose a polarity while in 3D? Or is it just that you believe yourself to be above that? If the latter, do you disagree that choosing a polarity is necessary for 3D entities to be harvestable? Are you disagreeing with the very premise of the Law of One as explained by Ra/Q'uo? Or am I misunderstanding you here?
To your questions: no and no. Wasn’t saying those at all. For me, to disagree is a waste of time, energy and related to judgment and resistance. Resistance is futile, yet powerful in drawing the opposite of what One resists One can simply assess and discern and then accept/ignore…One need not resist what is offered by others, but certainly they may choose to.
Yes, just misunderstanding…no problemo, no forgiveness needed In re-reading, it’s hard for me to grasp what was unclear or how to make it more clear. I did try repeatedly and it just got worse. In contemplating your responses I may have come upon both the nature and purpose of your confusion…I’ll explain in next response. My perception is that I was attempting to distinguish between actions/behaviors and some implied direct connection to polarity…you put them back together again and thus confusion ensued. Also, I think I have an incomplete/confused understand of STS orientation/polarity that’s causing me to not quite understand what/who you mean when you use it. When I re-read and saw your response to the next portion, it occurs to me you already understand and agreed with that part, so just apply the same analogy of the child. In this part I was saying it’s the choice/action/behavior (and person?) that would be viewed as “bad/evil”, not the polarity. Hope that helps.
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(02-28-2009, 07:58 AM)AwakenedOneness Wrote: “Bad/Evil” appearances are related to dysfunctional thought forms, programming of lower natures, judgment and self importance/pride issues…NOT related to the entity itself! It’s like seeing the difference being a child’s “bad” behavior and seeing them as a “bad” child.
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(03-01-2009, 02:21 AM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Are you saying that there is no true STO or STS polarity at all? That we are all basically the same, a mixture of various motivations and behaviors? Again, I ask if you are disagreeing with the very premise of 3D being The Choice.
To your first question: no. And to your second, no. Below Oneness we are certainly not the same, but beautiful snowflakes of individuation with multitudes of purpose. Even within STO there are multitudes of differentiations of Soul origins, purposes, and experiences. Earth is a “melting-pot” entity/soul wise…unlike many other worlds.
IMPORTANT: Please take my words in the context they were given…in response to many of the writings in the thread which appeared to me to contain judgments about STS in general and entities that choose the STS polarity as a path for their current incarnation (it may be a continuation of their long-time path My intent was to point out there is no need for such judgments…One can simply assess and discern the respective orientations without projecting “good/evil” onto STO/STS orientations. In short, that’s not where things that appear “evil/bad” come from…they are not inherent or intrinsic. Darkness serves the Light, it is only when darkness denies and resists this that appearances of “evil” result. It is not the “nature” of the darkenss, it is the “abuse” of it. They are side-effects and consequences of the entities actions and behaviors as they walk the path. They are the result of choices, not orientations or vectors of service/love. Preference and choice are “fine and dandy” (admittedly poor words implying judgment, but used for convenience sake). But, judgment is an insidious trap and thought form used by STS oriented entities to disable, distract and detour those on the STO path by creating and maintaining separation and thusly making growth to Oneness impossible whilst they are maintained. Again, my intent was to serve others to provide guidance as to how/why they could cease judgment about STS orientation and thus heal their own separation.
More importantly let’s try to get to the core here (as I perceive it). This will take some “time/words”, but may be worth the effort…depending. I think the best way is to take a specific example. Let’s take you Monica, personally, and your radiance of love. I think you would accept you are of STO polarity as an entity and previously stated that means some level of balance and is inclusive of STS in practice, right? Ok, now I’m saying STS is merely a vector or direction that you can choose where to point/radiate your love. As STO you would say you desire and have chosen to point it both directions…both to your Self and to Others. I very humbly and gently submit/offer this to you: You have more of a challenge loving yourself than loving others. You may have a slight “deficit” in your violet thermometer in terms of balance with your heart chakra due to lack of self love. The remedy to this is to use the STS vector to radiate/point more love to yourself Monica. By doing so you will not only increase the balance of your violet rainbow and thusly harvest/graduation probability, but also (as I previously said) be even more empowered to love others more radiantly. In short, your STS action of extending more love to self will increase your STO potential. As STO polarity overall, you are more inclined to do this, not out of desire to graduate, but the latter…your desire to more fully radiate love to others and serve them thusly. Beautiful indeed. See how STS action/vector actually is the “solution” not the “problem” in this case? It’s not inherently a “bad/evil” thing to serve self, it’s all about intent, how it’s used, and applied. It’s about the entity using the vectors and how they do it, not the vectors themselves. I admit again I was confused about the difference between service to self and STS polarized entities as concepts, terms and acronyms.
Now then, taking this personal example, perhaps I can make clear both of my initial statements: what I’m saying is that your lack of self love does not come from STS (actually it comes from lack of using STS action/absorption of love). STS is not some “source” of “bad” things to blame everything on. The lack of self love comes from dysfunctional thought forms, programming of lower natures, self-judgment, and life experiences. To dispel or cease the judgment you must also of course cease to judge others…if you are judging STS polarized entities, how can you do that? You cannot. And thus, if this is the case for you, you are entangled in a web you cannot escape until you let go of all judgment. Since All is One, if you judge yourself you will judge others, if you judge others, you will judge self. You cannot stop one without stopping both. All is One. If you hold judgment you will maintain separation…if you maintain separation you cannot return to Oneness…return to Oneness IMO is the greatest desire of an STO oriented entity…for it knows that from there (or as close as it can get) it can offer the greatest service to others. My offer to you (or anyone reading) is only to look within, I’m not saying this is “true”…that is for you alone to look at and discern: I perceive you to project interpretations onto my words that MAY be stemming from some fundamental confusion or judgment within yourself related to STS polarity and entities. I think that this confusion is coming to the surface to unveil to you a previously hidden or resisted judgment you yet hold. Your Soul desires for you to let go of it in order to end the separation within yourself it is creating and maintaining. You may use Free Choice, Free Will, Infinite Love, and Infinite Wisdom to release it whenever you desire or are ready. If it does serve this purpose for you, then all the time and words were well worth it my beloved…I’m here to serve I perceive that letting go of judgment about “evil” is probably the absolute hardest one to let go of…usually “the last judgment to fall away”.
If I’m just completely off base here about how it appears to you personally, then I’d say that at least it’s a good “general” example of things that perhaps any/all can make use of. I also can see that perhaps you may be serving as my mirror to do the exact thing I just described for me…if so, thank you so much! Could even be both. I trust both of our process with it. Certainly, it’s provided me an opportunity to sort and distill certain awareness of mine into the mental body…definitely a big thank you for that
Now, I do see that an STS polarized entity has quite a challenge in being able to vector love and light to himself to a large enough degree to graduate/be harvested. I do see that an STS entity has myriads of pitfalls on his chosen path due to temptations of manipulation, greed, power over others, etc. which may result in guilt, self judgment. – the affect being that the entity would then have enormous difficulty loving itself and thus be thwarted in graduation. I do see most probably “fall”, and the farther they “fall” their downward spiral into darkness and separation ensnares them further. An STS path must be walked impeccably with temptation abounding all the while. None-the-less, it can be done. I’ve seen it myself first-hand. It must be incredibly rare indeed. Maybe this was more akin to an STS path walked by one who was certainly not an STS polarized entity as you would term it. I’ve also seen a mid-life switch in orientation occur…all can choose each day…the Creator’s love, light, and door to Unity/Home remains always open. Regardless of how long walks away into darkness / independence, the Creator’s love and light shines upon their backs with eternal patience. I do see that the STS path is slower. NOTE: I wrote and had to delete a beautiful continuation down this line into higher awareness and realms revealed on the other side of the gateway…I saved it to a file for myself though. Here’s the ending: It is all perfect, divine, and as it is. It is all One…All are One…One is
Pardon me, but I’m still learning discernment in what are violations of the Law of Confusion (as I perceive it, though I never read it being explained in Law of One…was it on prior transcripts to those in the book?) I do believe it was revealed to me completely and perfectly none-the-less. For me, I’d put it this way: The awakened Adept or Co-creator has no desire and would not even dream of lifting the veil of another Co-creator about some awareness/revelation by use of words written or spoken. The reason is that the divine purpose of placing the veil is so that it can/will only be lifted by going through the gateway to infinity and getting the awareness directly. All the “great stuff” must be experienced directly in awareness…each soul truly desires to “get it on their own and in their own time”…for Self Mastery and their own divine purposes. Otherwise it shortcuts growth and experience…the gems we came to this planet for in the first place. Also, I think there is something about the Creator hiding things and a “failsafe” if you will. Like in Aladin where “only the pure/worthy” may open this. Thus words and mental transfers are relegated to function as I’ve already said…to encourage, support, inspire, guide, heal, prepare and assist others in going through the gateway themselves. To violate this is to (in my experience) incur what I call a “cosmic spanking”. It falls into the category of coming from abuse of power and self-importance. It serves only the self, not the other. Worse yet, it’s actually an incredibly offensive disservice to the other. Ouch! I’ve had enough spankings already I will endeavor to use detailed words only in relation to that which remains on this side of the gateway and my forays into it.
(02-28-2009, 07:58 AM)AwakenedOneness Wrote: In the one/highest reality there are no “bad guys”, there is no “evil entity”, there is only Creator expressing in individuated Co-creators. But, in confusion, forgetting and the illusion of separation, entities do perceive there to be bad guys and evil. They do this by utilizing a marvelous faculty called judgment. If you have judgment within, it’s going to color/filter what you perceive without. But, it’s not out there…it’s in you...it’s not ultimately real…it’s your perception in duality.
(03-01-2009, 02:21 AM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: By saying it's not real, not out there but 'in you' isn't that also duality? To say something is 'not' such-and-such implies duality...isn't that a judgment in itself? Do you think that if something is in you it cannot also be 'out there?'
You have a knack for combining things I said the “evil guys” way of perceiving Creator doesn’t make “evil guys” really real. There are no “evil” beings. My “it’s not out there” wasn’t referring to that, it was referring to the judgments that make it appear so. I would not say/accept that duality implies judgment. It appears you made some weird connection between duality and judgment I don’t comprehend. Are these two connected in some way in your mind? If so, I strongly encourage you to untangle that mess or you will never be free. You may be confined to duality for a long time, but you need not be confined to judgment...remember it is the primary force of separation. Duality exists one step down from unity and below…you can’t change that…you can transcend it by returning home to the Source. But, judgment is always an option in every moment and something you create and choose. If there is no connection between the two in your mind, then please ignore me and pardon my “poor” assessment.
I concede that if One uses the word “not” then duality is implied/assumed, yeah even imposed. I already conceded English is a horrible language for discussing such matters…and also the mental body is really no place for them either…we are just playing with each other trying to do what cannot be done when we type to each other like this Monica…have fun and realize it’s a “game” that cannot be “mastered”, but we still want to improve our skills anyway and try to use them to encourage, support, increase desire, motivate, and serve each other Please try to see/read beyond the dualism and implied judgment of English to the intent and meaning of what I’m trying so hard to put from higher awareness into words and minds what just won’t “fit” there. I’m by no means near “perfect” at doing this daunting thing.
(03-01-2009, 02:21 AM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: I submit that it is both. We are holographic and mirror to one another.
Finally! No confusion here on either side…nothing but net (agreement) I simply want to add though that although we can and do serve as mirrors for each other…I find what I call a “fine line” with mirrors. Some folks have a distortion about it IMO. Just be sure to know that often mirrors serve more to “bring up within you” emotions or responses, than to exactly reflect an “issue” or behavior that you have. I don’t have to wait until everyone is healed for me to be healed (individually at embodied or soul level…maybe the Creator himself in 1st person does haha) But I do have to wait until: no matter what they reflect to me, I only see them as Co-creator and respond only then with unconditional love.
The greater point you make is about the hologram. When you are fully aware of the hologram and work with experiencing it directly (and I’m not talking about intellectual knowledge of it) then you will realize the totality of what is within you. I advise all to proceed slowly and carefully with these intricacies. On both sides of the polarity within (light/dark) you will find challenges where you least suspected them and draw powerful lessons you may not be ready for in linear time/life…ultimately you are ready…but your worldly life may go into chaos...balance and patience are key here. Remember never to battle the shadow or darkness my beloveds!!! Darkness battles against Light. It is one sided and folly. Higher Light does not battle darkness…it accepts it, loves it, laughs at it, and transmutes it into Light or just watches it flee from it’s very presence and radiance. This is the way of the Lightworker.
(03-01-2009, 02:21 AM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Again, please correct me if I'm misunderstanding you, but you seem to be implying that any sort of discerning of 'otherness' or rejecting of any qualities is not cool.
Do you see any value in assessing qualities and choosing to not resonate with those particular qualities? For example, is Q'uo being 'judgmental' or 'confused' when they say "The STS path is a bloody path...We are not of those...We are of the radiant path" (paraphrased) ...? Is this confusion? Bias? Judgment?
I imply nothing. I discussed discerning early on, so that should now be clear that it’s more than cool! As to “rejecting”…it has a feel of resistance and seems to me the same. So I would say indeed I advise you to not “reject” any “other” as obviously you would be rejecting the Creator and thus yourself. Simply accept, ignore, or resist/reject as you choose. As mentioned, resistance is futile but valuable and only brings in stronger what you are attempting to resist. Which turns out to be wonderful in the end. Key: you can change your mind at any time and accept what you are resisting…it’ll be “less traumatic” the sooner you do, but it will be even more powerful and contain more growth the longer you wait…either way you win! I think I recall in Law of One there is something about when you “get the growth from the catalyst” the need for the catalyst is fulfilled and therefore you no longer need to magnetically attract an external experience to provide the growth. Apply that here to resistance and know that if you want ease in life, get this thing soon…or simply know and expect you will create a powerful catalyst of external experience to get it later. But when you truly get this is how it works…you can even laugh and have incredible gratitude for the “bad/tough” experiences in life because of the great growth and empowerment they yield. I laughed and gave great gratitude myself today for a whopper of an experience/adventure I created for myself. It looked and felt absolutely horrible…I could not fathom how/why I could create such a mess/experience…today I understand that perfectly and rejoice in it.
I intended to mean One can accept what is, and do so without judgment. If you put your statements and possible confusion in the earlier context of example to you personally, I’d humbly and gently offer that you are rejecting/resisting STS orientation as something other than the Creator playing with himself or architecting a divine creation. Thus will then draw it unto you in some form or semblance. If indeed you are doing this (again it’s just a thought I had…I’m not saying this is true for you), you are doing this with great purpose and reason Monica, IMO you want to drop your judgments and resistance to your shadow and so are externalizing them. Remember the hologram though Monica…and if you apply this entire post to the hologram within…you can get great growth by seeing that STS polarity and entities are perfectly mirrored to you by your relationship with the shadow within. You reject/resist them without due to what you hold within. Your Soul’s desire is to clean up the judgments of, and resistance to, the shadow within. They are your mirror. When you drop the resistance and judgment, your only response to STS polarity will be acceptance and love…this is how you will know you are “done” with it. As we said about which must come first…doesn’t matter…you can drop your judgments about “them” and the ones within about your shadow will drop…or vice versa, or simultaneously, or ebb/flow between. Given your strong STO orientation, I’d assume you’ll stop judging them and start loving them as service to others and then receive the benefit within yourself as a consequence. Given your person challenge of extending love to yourself, personally I’d advise the opposite and try a vector of self love this time…this may benefit your violet thermometer more that way Regardless of your choice, the outcome is the same. Besides, my advice is free and you get what you pay for
(03-01-2009, 02:21 AM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Do you see any value in assessing qualities and choosing to not resonate with those particular qualities? For example, is Q'uo being 'judgmental' or 'confused' when they say "The STS path is a bloody path...We are not of those...We are of the radiant path" (paraphrased) ...? Is this confusion? Bias? Judgment?
Assessing qualities? Yes, I see some value in that. I prefer to focus on my path rather than those in opposition though…but I’m not ignorant of them by any means. You cannot “choose to resonate” with qualities. You either do or do not resonate. What you choose is what path/orientation you wish to walk and how you do it. The statement is confusion, bias, and judgment…but not in the way you are asking me to answer Let me explain/expand:
The term “bloody” may be viewed as either a statement of fact / assessment, or as a veiled judgment depending upon the source…I will say it’s a very “loaded” and graphic word and will likely serve to conjure judgment and “negative” images in the minds of readers more that a different choice of words would have. Whether judgment occurs is up to the reader/receiver…if there is none within them…no judgment will occur in response to the word. If they hold judgment, they will likely project their judgment onto the use of the word and the meaning intended. This of course will lead to creation of a certain amount of separation and reduction in love for that reader. Personally, I would first give Q’uo the benefit of the doubt that judgment was not intended or present within Q’uo when the statement was made. If I read it, I would not see it as judgmental, I’d see it as fact. It would not move me from my love, nor increase my separation. They made a choice…while I’ll not judge their choice of words, if it had been me I’d have chosen a different word to avoid the potential for confusion and judgment to enter my reader’s mind in an attempt to spare them the separation that naturally results. I don’t judge their choice because I know that even if it brings up judgment in the reader…that’s a “good” thing because it will unveil a judgment to the readers who have them within so that they may be released and thus decrease their separation. It will have no affect on the reader who has no judgment. Ultimately it’s a choice they made, but it’s a win either way. Again, it does not matter, it’s all good, it all serves, the Logos Physics have a miraculous way of always resolving everything perfectly. Isn’t that wonderful? There are no mistakes, nothing can go wrong…umm how many ways can I say it? We can go round and round my dear, it will always end up the same: The Creator always wins It’s his creation!
NOTE: I do consider this one example of a limitation/shortcoming for channeled work coming from entities that have not incarnated on Earth and are unfamiliar with our language, judgments and experiences here. It’s a double-edged sword. Sometimes that allows us to go beyond our language…sometimes it has unintended affects. They also lack personal experience of our unique “melting pot” of souls and the prevalence of darkness upon the earth plane. From “there” it seems so simple/easy. They also seem less able to give practical advice on how to apply the wisdom in everyday life and to specific situations. This doesn’t mean at all I’m saying it isn’t wonderful and valuable assistance. But, it is why I personal chose my divine mission…to come down here myself, wake up, and be able to give similar wisdom, but combined with Earth plane experience and practical and applicable methods of implementation. But of course I wouldn’t have gotten to where I am without their assistance, and that of my guides and incredible teachers…5 of the most incredible teachers in all of creation I am eternally grateful and blessed to have them.
In general, if I read more and more from Q’uo (or any author or source) and found this to be occurring repeatedly, then I’d probably start thinking there was judgment present in Q’uo and it was coming out/through in the writing…as opposed to a “poor choice of words”. Again, I’ve no “problem” with bias as I understand the word…I relate to that word as “preference” or “favored choice”. As long as that choice is favored because it “feels better” or “resonates” it would lead to a state of bias. If however the choice is made because the alternative is “wrong/bad”, then that would be exercising judgment. and thus lead to separation. NOTE: I think I’ve only read 1 or 2 Q’uo things on the recent or weekly transcripts, so I’ve not much “feel” for it.
(02-28-2009, 07:58 AM)AwakenedOneness Wrote: This is exactly what is so darn wonderful and refreshing about the LOO material…it is what is so freeing! It provides a way to let loose enormous joy and love…to radiated it unrestricted…for there is no need to withhold it from “anyone” or anywhere. You are free to love all unconditionally because you no longer feel any need to withhold love from those who don’t “deserve” it…the “evil ones”. Beyond this even, there actually aren’t even “evil/bad/negative” acts or behaviors, it’s just that 3rd D people choose to perceive them as such. It’s all a function of level of awareness and vibratory frequency.
(03-01-2009, 02:21 AM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: I'm in total agreement that radiating joy/love to everyone is the thing to do...Ra/Q'uo have frequently reiterated that. However, the idea of withholding love from one who is perceived as 'evil' is contrary to the teachings of the Law of One...
Exactly! That’s why I was pointing out that the judgment or perception of “evil ones” results in withholding love…which is not “ideal” or “desirable” to a Lightworker or STO entity. This is why STO entities must drop those judgments about “evil” and go beyond them to acceptance and unconditional love.
(03-01-2009, 02:21 AM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: it is in the cases of STS 'greeting' that it is perhaps most important to respond in love...Are you saying that it is a mistake to recognize the motivation/polarity of another entity who is seeking to influence you in some way?
If I understand you right, then an emphatic NO, I’m not saying that at all…how could you perceive that from reading my words? Forgive the crassness, I do this for dramatic effect and to convey critical importance: you damn well better know the motivations and polarity of every/any entity seeking to influence you in any way!
(03-01-2009, 02:21 AM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Can you please define 'through the gateway' ...? Thanks!
I’ll go further than that. Awareness of individual Soul aspect normally confined to the physical embodiment and mind disengaging from mind/personality/body and moving completely into the 5th/throat/blue ray chakra which is a portal/gateway which then allows the awareness to travel or journey to other worlds and/or dimensions (Ra would call them densities) in any number of “bodies” commensurate with the destination. This can take one either to the 12 Inner Worlds/Kingdoms or to the 7 Outer Worlds/cretion. Technically they are worlds on planes and have dimensions within them. Some people use the words interchangeably. If one journeys for example to the 5th worlds / density which are etheric, they will utilize their etheric body (sometimes called the light-body) to do so as it is the 5th body. The awareness goes from the embodiment, then into and then “through the gateway”, (perhaps like water down a drain) and enters the etheric body which then may take flight. Commonly it is intercepted by one of the Soul’s council of twelve personal guides to accompany it on an “outer world” journey. You would be wise to pray and request this prior to any/all journeys. They likely always have one of them watching you anyways. But you always have free choice and guides don’t like to over-ride it. So, use it to give them permission. Sometimes the traveling body is seen and “intercepted” or greeted by others who sometimes volunteer as guides or teachers…hopefully that is. Other encounters may include what you would call STS entities. Mostly your guides and Soul control things such that you never encounter them…you simply don’t go where they are. I’ve never encountered one on 5th and above, I have encountered them. Fortunately, even if you encounter one you aren’t “messed” with or “battled” above 4th D…you may be tested, confronted, deceived or tempted however. You do have the option to “grab/hold” them and ask questions. There are many gatekeepers. They can be challenging. If you can’t “pass” them…you ain’t going on…period.
If One journeys to the inner worlds you have an incredible opportunity to actually travel into your own Higher Self directly. Obviously you may consult, contact and connect with your Higher Self while conscious in body and not journeying. This experience of actually going into it is quite different. You also can have the opportunity for the Soul Aspect that you are to actually re-enter the totality of your own Soul. There is also beyond that…and beyond the beyond ad infinitum. You may also move up/down through several bodies and densities in a single journey. You could also dispense with the words and descriptions of the various “bodies” and see it as just an increase in vibrational frequency…a flowing transition to appropriate frequency for the destination.
In particular, you will move back down through them all in order to re-enter your physical embodiment. Primarily this is done to allow integration, decoding and recall to be done slowly. …bear “in mind” that since this all takes place in awareness only, the brain and mind do not function there at all. Your awareness and consciousness are present in the moment, but the experiences are “decoded” and “remembered” in the mind/brain/mental body only as and upon return. You end up therefore with two “versions” of the experience…the direct one and the recalled one. Sometimes you can remember both, sometimes just the decoded version, and rarely just the actual experience which you then must attempt to decode/transfer into brain whilst conscious.
Fortunately, since you don’t have your brain to contend with and you are using higher bodies and higher awareness…all of this that reads quite complicated is in fact and in practice incredibly simple…even natural…it requires no “thought” or directing. Decoding is incredibly difficult and results in great distortions. Again, awareness and experience do not “fit” properly in the human mind/brain…they are only interpreted and translated there…and somewhat poorly at that. Recall is incredibly difficult due to this. Many likely journey and never recall or decode it into mind when they first begin. They benefit during conscious states as the awareness gain/experience basically “drops” in or “pops” in “out of nowhere”.
Journeying on the 4th D does not require accessing the gateway to infinity or going through it. 4th D is the Astral realm. There, One will likely encounter very “nasty” entities, there is nowhere to visit since you will only be in Earth’s Astral plane…other 3rd D planets will have their own…you can’t go there from your Astral body. I can confirm there are indeed battles there. Rookies do battle there…most often all recall is intentionally veiled and blocked by Soul so that trauma does not result to the conscious mind upon return. Also it is blocked so the entity does not relish or attach to the concepts of battle and begin to see himself as “good guy fighting evil”. Sometimes when people awaken totally exhausted and in a bad mood, and have no recall of dreams…this is precisely what has occurred. Lightworkers/Wanderers don’t want to go play on the Astral plane.
Within any density/level in the outer world journeys, you may visit any world or system on that level (given the experience to navigate of the individual and potentials of the guide). Also, provided you pass the gatekeepers. For example, whilst traveling in your etheric body you could go to any etheric or 5th D world. If you got into your spirit body you could travel to Venus and visit it’s 6th D “version” and consult with Ra directly. I have strong intuition that One may only journey to a level or density to which their Soul has evolved or graduated in the sum of it’s parts or perhaps your personal aspect/fragment. This may actually apply to only the Inner Kingdom or to the outer worlds, or both…I do not know. If therefore your Soul Aspect has only graduated to 5th D…you aren’t going to be able to journey beyond that. I do not know this to be fact. It makes sense that you cannot go beyond where you are. This description is only partly based on reliable sources, and mostly on personal experiences. The wording and descriptions are how I personally integrate and relate to it in my mind and I make no claims about any of this being “accurate” to how any other entity would describe it.
(03-01-2009, 02:21 AM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: When you say you have accessed 6D and 7D, are you referring to the same definition of 'density' as described by Ra? I ask this because I've seen others (usually channels) use similar terminology but in those cases they were actually describing something different.
Perhaps my above description of through the gateway cleared that up…perhaps not. In short, I do not know if it’s the same definition. This topic can never be “cleared up” And yes, they all seem to use different words for same things and same words for different things. I will type up a bit of the description from the authority on the subject. If anyone can clear the matter up it would be him. Even he gives two different systems as they pertain to “The seven worlds of Ascension” which is somewhat simplified and relates to the outer worlds of creation that corresponds to the density system Ra speaks of, and “The Circle of Oneness illustrating the Spiral of Infinity”…kinda the map of creation as you journey it in consciousness within the Kingdom within. It is all one ultimately though and certainly strongly related or intertwined. It’s too complex to really “get” in words, but when you see the diagram it’s not too bad…still boggling though.
I relate and use the former and they go World ONE-Physical, TWO-Mental, THREE-Emotional (you can then relate that to our planet being 3rd D as containing the physical/mental/emotional body complex) then FOUR-Astral, FIVE-Ethereal, SIX-Spiritual, and SEVENTH-Soulic. After that it passes to the next “universe”.
The other one is based on 12 worlds, and refers to them as inner worlds of consciousness. But he says it is only an illustration and that “there are no mathematics to explain infinity” He also says things like: “Remember that there are worlds within worlds, systems within systems, universes within universes, and omniverses within omniverses. Everything spirals from the center of the Source and all worlds in graduated order—something like a loving chain reaction.” Each of the 12 worlds has 12 sectors within it for a total of 144 sectors. A single sector has 12,000 dimensions, 12,000 realms, and 12,000 degrees of angelic glory. The full description of it is a fascinating read. When you are done your head spins. Personally I gave up any need for any intellectual understanding of these topics and quite simply put: I don’t care anymore
I’ve pinpointed my soul’s location/progress and know where I’m off to next. I see where Earth is and where it’s going next. Somehow I can navigate the whole thing perfectly in awareness as I journey through infinity within and the worlds without, but have limited comprehension of any mental system to categorize it all in my mental body. That’s all fine by me and doesn’t bother me a bit It does occur to me that perhaps it’s just so complex that most channeled sources cannot describe it either…thusly they all resolve to give simplified “systems” or concepts for mental usage in our brains…none of them exactly accurate. The other alternative is even funnier…the channeling ones (not the authority of course) themselves can’t conceive/comprehend it, and don’t want to admit it
Honestly though, the best I can tell you is that the human brain has great difficulty imagining non-physical things. When you think “worlds” and “universe” you are going to picture stars and planets and galaxies because your brain associates those images in it’s neural networks associated to the words. When you think of entities you are going to picture some sort of body or form. Quite simply put: it’s just not like that! It’s more like an incredibly complex holographic matrix system of infinite complexity arranged in some weird spiral infinite loop toroid thing with interconnections between the rings of the spiral and lattices throughout. The entities are just little sparks of light that bounce around differently and appear differently depending on what ring of the spiral they are on. It seems the brain lacks any similar enough images or representations to allow you to imagine it and certainly lacks the computing power to comprehend it. You can observe and see etheric/light bodies though, but even they can change based on how the entity wishes to present itself…non-formed they look more like some modern art glowing string blob with an aura. If you read lots of Quantum Physics for a while, you can begin to start imagining it all better…but it’s a waste of precious linear time as graduation/harvest rapidly approaches. My advice though is to do as I did and simply ignore it. Infinite creation is just not going to fit into your brain…however you attempt to do so will not be “right”…in the end there is no “great” way to picture or describe the worlds, densities, dimensions, realms, planes and how they all interconnect.
(03-01-2009, 02:21 AM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: Are you saying that it's an important function of Wanderers to 'awaken' and 'access the gateway?' (I won't ask what you mean by that, or maybe I already did ask it, sorry! But you just said you don't want to tell us what's on the other side, so I won't ask again.) What I'm asking here is, are you in disagreement with what the Law of One states, regarding the mission of Wanderers?
I do not know what Law of One states regarding the “mission of Wanderers”. I have not read the Wanderer’s Handbook either. So, I cannot comment on that. Since I do not know, you may take what I say and compare the two and see if they match or not…and then accept/ignore as you see fit. If they are not Wanderers themselves, I would humbly suggest to you that I am in a much better position to comment on the matter…as I am one and have wandered far and wide for eons. I would say in general that we wander for a variety of functions, missions and purposes. We are, as all Souls are, as diverse as snowflakes my beloved. Generalized ones would include: advancement/evolution of our own growth towards unity by exploring multiple worlds and thusly gathering a diversity of experiences and opportunities for growth; collection and learning of specialize knowledge available on the respective and specific worlds that focus on them; answering calls to service and being sent on specific and divine missions by way of appointment by the Father/Mother Creator or certain other overseers or executives of universes (usually selected for, and drawing upon, that specialized knowledge and abilities attained in previous wanderings; active service to others and participation on worlds approaching graduation/harvest; pure fun, play, curiosity, and adventure; some are really into observation of how others go through experiences, but they typically do not “incarnate” to 3rd D to do so…they do exchange “protection” and “radiance” with the observed person in exchange for being able to “eavesdrop” or “watch”. This is by mutual consent. It all depends on the Wanderer my beloved. Some are just beginning to wander and Earth may be their first destination, some have wandered a fair amount, others have wandered long and far. You really can’t “generalize” a wanderer’s mission accept to say “to serve”, or more specifically: To love themselves, to love others, and to love what they do. They do tend to “awaken” faster than native 3rd D “people” and thus often help awaken others preceding graduation/ascension/harvest. This is probably a primarily mission/purpose for many current wanderers to Earth at this point in linear time.
As to: important to “ 'awaken' and 'access the gateway?” I’d say that it’s important for all to awaken. Depending on the specific wanderer and his/her mission it may or may not be important to access the gateway. Certainly if they do, they will be more “effective/empowered” in whatever they do…as would anyone who does so. For this wanderer and his mission, it was not only important to do so, it was critical to my divine mission…without access I would “fail” in my particular divine mission and several sub-components of it…as well as other parts of my master plan for this incarnation.
(03-01-2009, 02:21 AM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: I hope you don't mind all the questions...just trying to understand your comments.
I didn’t mind all the questions at all. They were wonderful and powerful in effect for me at least. I hope they are for you (even if you were just testing/discerning me . I somewhat minded the responding part though It’s all a process and it’s all good. I would not have done it had I perceived no value in it. Remember my beloved that any of that “personal example” stuff that doesn’t pass your self-assessment and discerning…you just ignore it and treat it as if I was just talking in generalities. I personally don’t like it when someone “get’s me wrong” about some issue they think I have and then tries to counsel me about it…(didn’t mean to do that to you), though sometimes I find they are indeed correct and I was really just resisting and not seeing what I’d ignored within me for so long.
I sincerely desire Monica that it helped with your “understanding”, but more importantly for me is that it served you and/or others who read it to decrease their judgment and separation, increase their hope, faith, belief, desire, and will to go forth into action and experience of walking the direct path within…to where they find their own “answers” and to perhaps journey even further…leaving the busy mind behind and taking flight in awareness to explore the beyond…returning then to integrate that heightened awareness and experience into their embodiments and go forth in humble service to all as an expression and alignment of the Creator’s Divine Will…being forever about their Father/Mother Creator’s business…and fulfilling their Soul’s divine purpose and missions accordingly. Blessing to All as One. In Love, Light, Law, Life and Laughter – Awakened Oneness.
(03-02-2009, 07:04 PM)jeremy6d Wrote: Ha!
Let's be clear about the two connotations we're using when we talk about judgment:
(1) the positive sense, in which we are trying to describe a phenomenon with our conclusion. "I judge a tree to be 30 feet high."
(2) the normative sense, in which we invest an arbitrary, emotional attachment in the conclusion. "I judge you to be an horrible person."
The whole response was nice Jeremy. Personally I think a better idea is to use two different words and thus end the confusion and quibble when discussion metaphysics. I did this in my response to Monica by using the alternate words she brought up: Asses and Discern. You can use others:
1) I reckon/discern/asses/see/think/say/estimate/guess that tree to be about 30ft.
2) Man that’s an ugly tree! (implied judgment)
1) I discern this judgment no longer serves me as it once did and choose to let it go.
2) Judgment is bad.