06-04-2010, 11:54 AM
(06-03-2010, 04:31 PM)unity100 Wrote: it is ironic that some of you people talk about how infinite existence is, and how infinite we are, and talk about the power of soul, previous incarnations, wanderers, dimensions and astral planes AND then talk about limited human experience.
a homo sapiens sapiens body is a hominoid monkey body that is used to incarnate in this particular 3 density social complex.
being incarnated in it does not nullify the soul that incarnates into it, or erase its previous incarnations, its frequency level, and the wisdom it garnered.
it is up to the person to work and remove those limitations, and one of that kind of work, includes the work of the mind, the intellect, the wisdom.
I think it depends on the curriculum each particular entity is enrolled in, during his/her time here in 3D Earth. Some are enrolled in Love 101, and their goal is simply to make the choice and graduate to 4D. Wanderers, however, may be simultaneously brushing up on Love and working on a mission to raise the vibration of the planet, while being enrolled in a higher density course of study, such as Wisdom.
The veil exists for a reason. Depending on that particular soul's chosen curriculum, it may or may not be in the best interest of the entity to penetrate the veil. Doing that might even be a distraction for some and get in the way of the work they chose to accomplish.
In any case, even if we do pursue penetration of the veil and get glimpses of the greater reality, can we totally understand the mysteries of the Creator while in a 3D body? Even Ra stated that they have teachers too, and the octaves above them remain a mystery.
(06-03-2010, 04:31 PM)unity100 Wrote: wisdom will not come by 'loving everything' and 'being one' with 'the one'. the requirement to 5th density graduation (and therefore very probably the requirement to activate the 5th density energy center in any given life) is sufficient amount of wisdom. in 5th density the dance of existence is learned, its ways, its wisdom, its knowledge, and then in 6th density, love is AGAIN balanced with wisdom. http://www.lawofone.info/results.php?ses...=1&ss=1#15 not, wisdom is balanced with love, unless, you are approaching 6th density from negative path.
True. So it really just depends on what each soul has chosen to learn in this particular incarnation. Perhaps some Wanderers have indeed already learned Wisdom, and in their wisdom have chosen to veil their 3D selves from the deeper mysteries, in order to be of service during this time of Harvest.
(06-03-2010, 04:31 PM)unity100 Wrote: therefore, just loving and accepting everything, and being 'one', and leaving the rest to 'mystery' and 'we cant know because we are just ....... ', will not avail in learning the ways of wisdom, the knowledge of existence, and move the entity towards the density of co creation. leave aside the fact that, up to a third of the concept of existing in a mind/body/spirit complex, is 'mind' itself.
This presupposes that 'learning the ways of wisdom' is part of that soul's agenda.
(06-03-2010, 04:31 PM)unity100 Wrote: in short, one needs to think and reach newer horizons with his/her mind.
Perhaps one does. And perhaps others don't.
(06-03-2010, 04:31 PM)unity100 Wrote: 'but who are we to ....' sentence structure is one that is very detrimental in that regard.
Possibly. Or, it might be an expression of humbleness when marveling at the vastness and grandness of the Creator's ultimate design.
(06-03-2010, 04:31 PM)unity100 Wrote: and now, in the proper point to make this comment ; i have referenced the patriarchical, rigid middle eastern god figures in the above post, because, the 'thou art but a subject', 'humans cant fathom' concepts are heavily intervowen to, and endemic in philosophies/religions that are out of that region. in no region/culture other than middle east, belittling, humbling of capacities of humans, or things that discourage them from reaching new horizons are found. actually exactly to the contrary.
Hmmm...good point! I haven't studied a lot of other religions, so I can't speak from personal knowledge that no other religion has that "I am wretched" element, but I agree with you that these religions sure do have it. And I agree that it was injected into those religions as an STS element. I find it disturbing when I hear people of those religions speak like that on a daily basis. It's so ingrained in them, that any suggestion that they might actually be beautiful, magnificent beings often tends to frighten them. I find this sad.
I agree that, in those cases, references to "helpless, stupid, wretched me" may be a holdover from having been entrenched in those religions. But I don't perceive that as having been the case here. My interpretation of the comment "Who are we to plumb the mysteries of the UniVerse" was one of marvel and humility, rather than religious brainwashing.