03-01-2009, 10:23 PM
(02-28-2009, 07:58 AM)AwakenedOneness Wrote: I personally have closely observed the life of an STS oriented Co-creator who arrived at complete enlightenment. The entity actually graduated (harvested) very quickly and moved on. He is an incredible soul and very advanced. In my personal opinion, he came in this incarnation to try the STS path “just for fun” and the challenge. I think he’d previously graduated and become enlightened using STO path beyond 6th D already. Now, when he passed, the celebration of his life ceremony was attended by over 400 people! The facility overflowed, went into the downstairs where people just listened on speakers. The point being everyone loved and adored him. He was a treasure. His radiance was so bright it touched many. To know him was to love him. He was incredibly loving, humble, quiet, and mediated and prayed for hours daily. He inspired and motivated tons of people to be their best and stretch their limits. He did this by demonstration and an incredible vitality and enthusiasm he radiated. He read spiritual books, was a master artist and athlete. He had a huge heart and much love. He never committed a violent act, crime, or even harsh words to others. He was an impeccable spiritual master. He had “contacts” on higher planes/dimensions he worked with actively. He opened and passed the gateway to infinite regularly. In short, you’d think he was a “saint”. Except this: He was the most selfish person I ever met. He was notoriously selfish. 98% Selfish! At a certain point in his life I don’t think he ever did anything that he didn’t want to do. He never did anything “for anyone else”. If there was no personal desire or something in it for him, he simply didn’t do it. He’d do things that appeared kind like invite you out to dinner, but he’d do it because he wanted the company and didn’t want to go alone. If you didn’t have the money to go, he’d offer to pay, not to “give to you” but so you wouldn’t have an excuse not to go. He’d talk you into going to see a movie he wanted to see, but never go see one with you he didn’t want to see. He spent nearly all his time doing “his thing” in athletics, art, and with women. Now, I’d say that’s clearly an STS orientation wouldn’t you? Nearly all of his energy/attention/love was directed to self. He knew he was one with Creator and one with everyone else, and so he simply knew that any/all love he pointed at himself hit Oneness just the same. If we are one and connected, as I love myself I AM loving you. Again I say it’s a vector my friends, not positive/negative. Much confusion on this thread is mixing a path or vector with polarity or judgments.
Well, far be it from me to use a second hand account to pass "judgement" on another's vibration, but - if you'd entertain the attempt, as a hypothetical in the interests of better understanding polarity - I'd disagree with you totally. But I think there's a lot of misunderstanding of the service to self path, just because it is so extraordinary in third density experience of most of this audience of STO wanderers - at least in its fully polarized, most intense manifestation. I'll share my take on it so you can perhaps provide helpful feedback.
You and I agree that the term "service to self" is more or less a full-blown misnomer. In fact, I can't find the passage, but I remember Ra saying something like (paraphrasing): "In a Creation that is one, all service is to self". That's why it's important to not take the terminology too literally. STS represents a philosophic and energetic configuration at its root - behavior follows from that, but the behavior is not itself the polarity. This is why intention is so important: through the study of one's intent we can better get at the underlying energies surrounding a decision.
Anyway, I think it's clear that from the outpouring of love directed at this person that, regardless of what his intentions were, he provided a great deal of service to other people. Was this his intent? Perhaps not. But it seems unlikely that having touched so many people that he saw them as means to power and control. It just seems hard to believe. To me, the individual you describe is simply not very polarized - or he's a very quiet STO who does his service in an energetic and mental inner capacity.
To me, service to self isn't about taking care of yourself or being merely self-centered. The energetic and philosophic core of service to self is the acquisition of power as a means to be able to direct and order the Creation. It is the idea that service to those otherselves is not a matter of getting them to express their own, unique selves within the Creation, but of getting them to express your own, particular, individual identity - by enslavement, manipulation, etc.
There are certainly lighter shades of this dynamic in our everyday lives, but the above constitutes what I think a polarization towards STS would entail. It's not because I think STS has to be big, bad, and evil - it's just that being big, bad, and evil seems to correlate strongly with this view of the Creator.
Feel free to contradict me - perhaps there are nuances to STS that I do not comprehend which you could teach me!
(02-28-2009, 07:58 AM)AwakenedOneness Wrote: JeremyD: you wrote and are aware of very much. Don’t get a big head, it’s just that I prefer your reflection of myself because I’m a prejudiced jerk
Word. I'm afraid it's too late for me not to get a big head, but I totally get what you mean by "I prefer your reflection". It's all part of the drama, baby!
(02-28-2009, 07:58 AM)AwakenedOneness Wrote: This One resonates most with, and sees great value in, the line you wrote, “Creation is an experiment in what separation would be like if it were possible, right?” Creator’s reply is an emphatic, “Yes, exactly! But it’s more like an experience or ‘game’ of hide and seek I’m playing with myself as I attempt the impossible…fulfillment of a purpose…to know myself.”
That's a great way of putting it. And in that context, one can see why the STS path is so vital to this experiment: STS is the conscious, full potentiation of untruth and falsity. This feels like a weird thing to say, but check it: in a Creation in which all is well, all is one, the only truly new acts of creation left are those that delve into darkness and falsity. It potentiates not only the Creator's complete knowledge of self, but it informs our own STO paths with new nuances we wouldn't be able to experience.
(02-28-2009, 07:58 AM)AwakenedOneness Wrote: Jeremy, I think if we met in person we’d get along splendidly and waste countless hours in words. I wish to ask if you journey through the gateway though, and to what density/world/dimensions, as some (just a little) of what you write seems still in confusion. That is if you’d feel comfortable sharing any of that. If you’d like to know what exactly, you’d have to ask…not for me to say when unsolicited. Perhaps private emails would be great some day together.
Well, I do think that I demonstrated a bit of confusion in how I approached Chaotikmind, just because I brought some ego into that interaction. But I'd love to talk more with you, and I'd be grateful for any insight you could share concerning the gateway - this is a concept that I'm very aware of intellectually, but I really don't have a conscious experience of it.
I think a lot of my approach to the LOO is informed by reasoning and mental reflection. I need to work a lot on having a more emotional and direct experience of these things.