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    Thread: Post-harvest continuity of consciousness


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    06-02-2010, 03:53 AM
    (06-02-2010, 12:29 AM)unity100 Wrote: Ra didnt suggest anything catastrophic.

    In the earlier quotes we made, ra said that everyone would have to go through normal process of death, for the 4th density incarnation to happen.

    and they also noted, the change would happen in a normal reproduction cycle, taking a few generations (up to 150 years if im not mistaken ?) to happen.

    How do we reconcile the fact that Ra also gives a specific timeline and tells of the clock-like occurence of the end of third density on planet earth, after which time as I quoted earlier, third density will cease to exist on earth. While actual catastrophe is not specified, Ra does in one passage state that if inhabitants of earth as a whole, were to realize 3rd density graduation at some point in the master cycle, the planet would suddenly be empty-though this is a highly unlikely to occur at all, least of all in our present situation.

    I agree that the death as necessary in this mind body complex state is clearly stated repeatedly in the Ra material, and the Q'uo get into much more detail about 3rd and 4th densities co-existing due to our recent progress. If all this is taken literally, however, and the last harvest of the cycle is going on as we speak, and will culminate in 2012, there doesnt seem to be any way to bring these two concepts together as we seek some knowledge of what will transpire as winter solstice 2012 approaches.

    In reviewing this thread, and lawofone.info on the subject, I think I have found a major clue that I previously overlooked.

    It is also found in session 63.

    Quote:63.8 Questioner: I would like to continue with the questions about the fact that in fourth-density the red, orange, and green energies will be activated; yellow, blue, etc. being in potentiation. Right now, we have green energies activated. They have been activated for the last 45 years. I am wondering about the transition through this period so that the green is totally activated and the yellow is in potentiation. What will we lose as the yellow goes from activation into potentiation, and what will we gain as green comes into total activation, and what is the process?

    Ra: I am Ra. It is misleading to speak of gains and losses when dealing with the subject of the cycle’s ending and the green-ray cycle beginning upon your sphere. It is to be kept in the forefront of the faculties of intelligence that there is one creation in which there is no loss. There are progressive cycles for experiential use by entities. We may now address your query.

    As the green-ray cycle or the density of love and understanding begins to take shape the yellow-ray plane or Earth which you now enjoy in your dance will cease to be inhabited for some period of your space/time as the space/time necessary for fourth-density entities to learn their ability to shield their density from that of third is learned. After this period there will come a time when third-density may again cycle on the yellow-ray sphere.

    Meanwhile there is another sphere, congruent to a great extent with yellow ray, forming. This fourth-density sphere coexists with first, second, and third. It is of a denser nature due to the rotational core atomic aspects of its material. We have discussed this subject with you.

    The fourth-density entities which incarnate at this space/time are fourth-density in the view of experience but are incarnating in less dense vehicles due to desire to experience and aid in the birth of fourth-density upon this plane.

    You may note that fourth-density entities have a great abundance of compassion.
    Quote:The positively oriented harvested entities will remain in this planetary influence but not upon this plane.

    Perhaps there is as Ra says, another plane, developing as of the 80's when these messages were received, to which harvested fourth density beings will incarnate, and which is able to coexist with lower densities. In this may be some possible explanation of how to reconcile the contradictions pertaining to the details of harvest and end of cycle on this plane.

    If the Q'uo material is integrated with the Ra sessions we may be led to think that, were the inhabitants of earth to have continued squarely on a STS path, and the polarization towards positive was less than is now being experienced, it would perhaps be impossible for 3rd and 4th density STO entities to coexist on this plane and the transition may have been of a more catastrophic nature.

    One other note-I think we must be wary, when speculating on the events of 12/21/2012, or of this harvest in more general terms, that we do not attach 3rd density construct meanings to things, such as death, which from the other side of this veil, do not exist as we know them. Birth and death, beginning and end, passage of time and distance between-these are realities only in a 3rd density incarnation. Have you ever considered that maybe a mass death, or catastrophe, is not really the terrible event that evokes fear in our earthly minds.

    If the inconvenience of a planet in transition becomes more unbearable than it already is to human inhabitants, would it not be a more desirable end to this master cycle, that one and all are spared from further suffering and pain. If conditions become such that most people die-I for one would not want to be one of the survivors. As wanderers, or students of the LOO, why are we on this forum so concerned with impending doom or catastrophe. Do we not possess the knowledge and understanding to face the fear of death, understand it as a necessary manipulation, a third density distortion with which we must be burdened-an instinctual urge to feed and protect these earthly vehicles in which we now reside-to keep living regardless of suffering, pain, despair or their polar opposites.

    We can discuss, argue, postulate and hypothesize about these specific details forever-but there is a fact of this incarnation which we will not overcome until the cycle ends, we are veiled, we do not possess the capacity to fully comprehend life beyond this existence. We understand, we feel and experience love and light, but at the end of the day, we have to provide food and shelter for ourselves at the very least, and we will not truly know until we get there, whether it be together as earthlings, or separately as resonant families of light.
    Will we be grouped by progress, by polarization, by proximity, belief, or acts. I think we take for granted the insight Ra gives us as we attempt to confine dimensional knowledge, universal law, and infinite intelligent creation into our little box of human psyche. It matters not what is at the end of the road, nor the route traveled-it is our efforts to live in love and light, and our respect of free will, in STO or STS- in our daily lives, in our spheres of influence, be they limited or far reaching. We are wanderers, we chose to be here-bad decision or not-it was a decision. To second guess it or waste energy in nonacceptance of all that exists, both the dark and the light, or to live in criticism and skepticism of that with which we do not resonate is the worst thing we can do, for the planet, for humanity, for ourselves, our Logos, and ultimately the singularity which is Creation.
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    Post-harvest continuity of consciousness - by Tenet Nosce - 05-28-2010, 12:34 PM
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