2006.01.01 'Failure' of the plan that this logos chose

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Is there anything morally wrong in thinking a "bad" thought, or just in doing the act?

In reality, there is no act, so how can anything we do, or anything that is done, be immoral or bad or wrong or right or good or moral?

We are thoughts; we may think this is real; we may think we are real. This is not. We are not. We are thoughts. Just as when each begins to meditate, thoughts have their own life, we have ours. We are the thoughts which occur when The One Creator meditates. We ARE The One Creator.

there is, because we cant be infinite and in perfect balance up until reaching infinity.

we are not 'the one creator', we are parts of it. and, im suspecting that, since we are the parts of 'it', or rather 'us', our balances and imbalances add up to the balance of the 'creator'.

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I see you are very thoughtful in your thinking and structuring logically the functions of the various aspects of the universe which are being discussed in this thread. Were I to do that I would feel I am fixing myself in knowing something which I really do not know, for I think I do not know anything. This is why all of my responses are made with my perception of the sessions and with the referring to the sessions of teachings for in truth I know nothing and can only act as an instrument to the sessions, to the ones who had channeled them and to the ones who had given the concepts.

all you need to do, is to dive into thought, and start rationalizing and practising logic. everything adds up to each other, and they should add up to each other.

if, you start from the basic start of 'infinity' and go with base logical rules that pass valid everywhere, then you can create a picture that should be valid everywhere.

all the stuff way below these, are the logical constructs of local logoi, that were built by deriving over those basic logic sets.

The one original Thought of the Creator is expressed perfectly in your being. Not in an idealistic sense, but in the sense of here and now. Bitterness, wrangling, disputes, argument, debate and disharmony are all a part of the rough and ready perfection which the Creator praises with all of Its being in you and you and you. Each of you is perfect, yet each seeks the one original Thought. Each seeks the harmony, the peace, the joy that it has not or seems to have not.

it is expressed in our being, but, we are NOT perfect or the perfec that it can be, and therefore have to evolve.

had we been perfect, we wouldnt need to evolve, and we wouldnt be even existing in a physical existence.

having a blueprint expressed inside something does not mean that that blue print is active.

it needs to activated thus.

The unyielding balance in the universe.
Q'uo Saturday Meditation September 27, 2008
[quote]Your sun body is a sub-Logos, a manifester and center of light and love, which it pours out upon all indiscriminately, generously and with great love. As you are perhaps aware, the actions of each of you do not go unnoticed in the universe. The creation of the Father is one and the universe balances itself endlessly with regard to each and every one of its infinite bits and pieces of creatorhood which are making the long, circular journey from alpha to omega and entering into alpha once again.

yes. universe balances itself, locally. even though itself is still an imbalanced construct, due to the fact that it is itself also an entity, a mega existence, that just exists in the infinite existence. there are infinite universes.

therefore, you cant expect a universe to be 'perfect', and therefore be faultless. if it was, there would be no need for new octaves.

existence is a being that goes through octaves just like we do. we are not perfect ourselves, since we need to reach new heights and understandings. therefore, universe cant be, either.

Q'uo Sunday Meditation March 13, 1994
[quote]You ask this day how the Creator has stepped down its selfhood in, and to experience as, a third-density entity. The shortest and most bluntly accurate answer to the query is that the Creator has not stepped down this selfhood in anywise, in any density, or circumstance. The truth is the Creator; the rest is illusion.

All that you strive to comprehend, you already know. All that you strive to be, you already are. However, free will so dances with each entity in this Creatorhood. Thus each entity becomes unique within illusion and the oddity and peculiarity through illusion is valuable. However, let us move back to the point that the Creator is manifest in you and in all whom you see. Similarly, as regards healing. The healing is already perfected. Insofar as the entity wishing can lay hold of the vibrations which are those chosen to the original Vibration, just to that extent has the individual opened the self to a new reality with illusion.

the creator, the intelligent infinity that is the potentiated infinity, is an infinite existence.

ANY finite part of it, is by any means NOT the 'creator', aka infinity itself, at no given point, since no finite construct can ever be infinite.

therefore, any construct you see within this existence, and the existence itself is not infinite.

because the only infinite, the only perfect existence is the infinity itself, BEFORE it gained intelligence, and become intelligent infinity (aka creator).

only if you return to total 'nothingness', you become infinite, and hence, perfect.

anything under it, is imperfect and going towards that perfection. that is the reason for the 'creator' aka intelligent infinity needing to know itself.

even in 'original vibration' you cant be perfect. there has to be no vibration, for existence to be perfect again.

Q'uo Special Meditation June 28, 2002
[quote]There is not a person, no matter what his station, his state, or expression of morality, that is not beautiful. Each entity at the soul level is tremendously beautiful. Indeed, each entity—being the Creator—has a beauty beyond all imagining, for each is all that there is; each contains the universe. And would not each, then, have all aspects of beauty and ugliness, the entire range of esthetics within the self, locked in many, many treasure troves within the personality, waiting to be opened by the right combination of circumstance and motivation?

Q'uo Sunday Meditation November 5, 2000

However, there are quanta, or heartbeats, in which the Creator’s knowledge of Itself is rendered open to alteration by the self-aware entities which are principles of the Creator, choosing by their free will to gather information and to process it in such and such a manner. And this the Creator can never know ahead of time and does not wish to know ahead of time. It is an important principle to the Creator: that Its portions that have been offered this background of densities and illusions have complete free will in looking at the creation around It, and responding to it, and in making those responses into a process of change, metamorphosis, and transformation of a certain kind. For each choice that each self-aware entity makes creates new possibilities, new patterns, and new potential choices that may add to the Creator’s experience of Itself.

being 'beautiful' does not mean being balanced or being perfect.

balance is a level that every micro or macro entity has to pass through and acquire, including the universe, even the existence we are currently in.

Oxal Saturday Meditation March 9, 1974
[quote]I am the one known as Oxal. It is my privilege to aid, as best I can, those who seek, and it is true that this is all that is necessary. It is only necessary that you seek. And then you will find. You will find all that there is. My friends, you will find the creation. And, my friends, in finding this, you will find the Creator. For they are one and the same thing.

When you meet your fellow man in your daily activities, you will recognize him for what he really is, a part of the creation, just as you are part of the creation. And the creation, my friends, is the Creator.

And then, as you look at Him and He looks at you, the Creator looks at Himself, through each pair of eyes. It is only necessary that you recognize this concept and understand it, and then your thinking and the Creator’s will be the same. And you will know the meaning of love.

I hope that I have been of assistance in giving to you my concept of truth. We of the Confederation of Planets in the Service of the Infinite Creator are expressing our concept of truth, a concept that is the result of our seeking. When we look at you, we see our Creator. This is our understanding. When we look at this infinite creation, in all of its wonders and all of its vastness, in all of its splendor, we are seeing the Creator. This is our understanding. And when we look at the smallest form of life, or even an insect, we are looking at our Creator. This is our understanding. For our understanding is that the Creator is expressing Himself throughout all of the infinite manifestations that we experience. And His thought in all of these manifestations is a thought of love.

again, part of the creator is NOT the creator. it is part of the creator aka intelligent infinity.

finite is not same with the infinite. this is one of the mishaps of 6th density understanding in my opinion ; 'feeling of being one with something or the infinity does NOT mean that you ARE that infinity, because, you are not infinite yourself'.

Ra Session 13 of the Law of One January 29, 1981
[quote]It shall be understood that any portion, no matter how small, of any density or illusory pattern contains, as in an holographic picture, the One Creator which is infinity. Thus all begins and ends in mystery.

again, containing a picture of infinity does not mean infinite.

yes, you are infinite in your inner planes, in your inner densities in your densities, you are probably a macro creature to those that may probably exist in your inner planes, but, there is a whole other infinity OUTSIDE you, that contains you.

you can learn the outside, by learning the inside. but, that does not make you as infinite as the infinity itself. you can only learn it, and be together, in unison with it, by being a part of it.

Here we have the second series of excerpts on why I myself feel that I do not know anything, for this resonates with me much. I do agree with these concepts for like I said in my first post I can not judge what I can not fathom, the said mystery which seems paradoxical.

each kind of reliable logical judgment set starts with rationalizing and logic from a certain point. saying 'i dont know anything' and refraining is not the way to go.

i will pass on commenting various love and compassion related quotes here, and those relevant to mysteries.

love and compassion or mysteries do not make any finite entity, entirety of infinity.

Q'uo Special Meditation April 18, 2006
[quote]However, it is unnecessary in terms of preparing the self for graduation from third density to penetrate the veil of forgetting. Indeed, it is far more important, in preparing for graduation from third density, that one come finally to the understanding that one knows nothing and can know nothing of the mystery that is the one infinite Creator. Reaching this level of humility and emptiness offers to the seeking student a peace and a confidence that are lacking when one is striving to know more and seek more deeply into the history of the self before this incarnation.

what you can know happening to be a finite, unexisting amount compared to infinity of existence, does NOT mean that you dont know anything.

if that logic would hold, all the other 'you are one creator' logic would fail, because, since your knowledge can be nonexistent due to being none compared to infinity, your importance and existence as a finite entity, would also be nonexistent compared to infinity, and therefore would hold no meaning.

therefore, 'creator is in all of you and you are all important' and 'you cant know anything about the creator' statements, logically contradict each other, and do not hold.

to prove either of those, you have to accept the reverse of the other too.

the second statement, therefore is wrong.

because, if you take anything out of an infinity that constitutes a whole, the infinity wont be that infinity anymore, because its composition will have changed.

hence comes the 'you will exist forever' and 'you are indispensable' concepts of existence.


i will pass various mystery related quotes.
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in short,

nothing you see in this existence is perfect. nothing you know in this existence is perfect. if there is anything perfect, you cant know or cant see it, because it will have totally melded into infinity and, also be a non-factor for your existence, since it wont be maintaining an existence that you can affect, or can affect you anymore.

therefore, even the current existence we are in is not perfect. leave aside the local logoi (suns) that support local systems. they can make mistakes, go too far compared to their potential balance, and can fail.

yes, all are lessons, yes all will be wisdom for future, but, that does NOT mean that, just accepting imbalances and not attempting to correct them, is right.

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dewey b larsons approach to unified field is a very good starter to this logic actually.