Even those Enlightened have distortion?

[zenmaster]

I'll concede and mostly agree anagogy, based on the subdensities simply being entirely overlayed, extant with all densities, and not analogous to steps of light, as I had assumed. I appreciate the clarification. Given that model, the crystallized being would be of the 7th subdensity - although that severely begs the question of this statement:

"There were those peripherally associated with this culture which did not stay. However, they were not able to be harvested either and so, beginning at the very highest, shall we say, of the sub-octaves of third density, repeated this density."

Which either means the unharvestable were crystallized beings or that the 150 were crystallized beings as you said.

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Perhaps I misunderstood you, as when you said 4D manifestation I thought you meant a 4D manifestation within 3D perception. I understand that each density has its own corresponding space/time and time/space so I thought you meant that 4D could manifest in 3D space/time.

That would be a contradiction, except during the transition period where there is a mix.

Fair enough, so what do you think is the mechanism for negative self-harvest? There must be ways to cross that boundary even without the transition period?

It's the ability to accept and work with a sufficient amount of light. In STS, that light is concentrated in the lower centers. I believe when the form-maker body is provided with that ability the bootstrapping to next density is natural and automatic.

Could you maybe create a local state that is similar or the same as the transition period?

AFAIK, to do that locally, you'd have to actually possess the understanding necessary to tap intelligent energy to transform yourself. That type of awareness is presumably not available because our brain/mind can't provide the means to support the necessary conception.