Even those Enlightened have distortion?

[zenmaster]

Perhaps I misunderstood you, as when you said 4D manifestation I thought you meant a 4D manifestation within 3D perception. I understand that each density has its own corresponding space/time and time/space so I thought you meant that 4D could manifest in 3D space/time.

That would be a contradiction, except during the transition period where there is a mix.