02-22-2009, 10:53 PM
Interesting conversation so far. But I think a point needs to made regarding the degree of STS as it applies to current cultural standards. Its one thing for us to apply and discuss the teachings of the LOO as it applies to STO or STS, it is another thing to totally accept the worst that STS has to offer our world. There are plenty of historical STS figures whose actions in this density cannot be condoned within any culture on this planet. It is disingenuous to think that you can sever your participation in the culture of wherever you originate from simply by saying that you embrace the teachings of the LOO.
All of us know un-awakened souls living their lives firmly in the grip of STS. But most of these people are unaware of a choice and will repeat third density elsewhere until they finally understand. If someone chooses STS, so be it. But when that choice begins to affect the lives of those around them, that choice becomes a social issue to be faced. Either by the STS entity or his/her cultural mores. In third density, there are consequences of any action and none of us can divorce ourselves from the consequences of our choices forever.
From a philosophical standpoint, I can understand and discuss the multitude of distortions that make everything equal in the long run. But until you reach the 6th Density of Unity, STO and STS are going to be at odds with each other.
Questioner: Would an entity of this density be more effective for this work than an entity of density five or six?
Ra: I am Ra. The fourth density is the only density besides your own which, lacking the wisdom to refrain from battle, sees the necessity of the battle. Thus it is necessary that fourth-density social memory complexes be used.
Questioner: Am I correct in assuming that both the Confederation and the Orion group utilize only their fourth densities in this battle, and that the fifth and sixth densities of the Orion group do not engage in this?
Ra: I am Ra. This will be the last full question as this entity’s energies are low.
It is partially correct. Fifth- and sixth-density entities positive would not take part in this battle. Fifth-density negative would not take part in this battle. Thus, the fourth density of both orientations join in this conflict.
All of us know un-awakened souls living their lives firmly in the grip of STS. But most of these people are unaware of a choice and will repeat third density elsewhere until they finally understand. If someone chooses STS, so be it. But when that choice begins to affect the lives of those around them, that choice becomes a social issue to be faced. Either by the STS entity or his/her cultural mores. In third density, there are consequences of any action and none of us can divorce ourselves from the consequences of our choices forever.
From a philosophical standpoint, I can understand and discuss the multitude of distortions that make everything equal in the long run. But until you reach the 6th Density of Unity, STO and STS are going to be at odds with each other.
Questioner: Would an entity of this density be more effective for this work than an entity of density five or six?
Ra: I am Ra. The fourth density is the only density besides your own which, lacking the wisdom to refrain from battle, sees the necessity of the battle. Thus it is necessary that fourth-density social memory complexes be used.
Questioner: Am I correct in assuming that both the Confederation and the Orion group utilize only their fourth densities in this battle, and that the fifth and sixth densities of the Orion group do not engage in this?
Ra: I am Ra. This will be the last full question as this entity’s energies are low.
It is partially correct. Fifth- and sixth-density entities positive would not take part in this battle. Fifth-density negative would not take part in this battle. Thus, the fourth density of both orientations join in this conflict.