Abrupt vs gradual harvest

[Ashim]

Little bit of a chicken and egg problem there. While not impossible, the space/time mind must be able to transcend the vibration which holds the body in its form. But the mind does not and can not have any awareness across densities.

Sorry zenmaster, I don't understand. Could you perhaps explain this in other words?

i.e. "ascension"?
In other words, the "form maker" must be informed by the local vibration of mind. space/time here entails only partial awareness.
We "walk the steps of light" because of the draw toward absolute wholeness. Or rather, from everything, which is what is consciously available in time/space, to one thing (which is not consciously available).

Everything that you've made of yourself is not consciously available in space/time here. Part of you is in time/space and part of you is in space/time. So what exactly would you be self harvesting?

When you contact intelligent infinity, you may establish faith and a degree of distortion which is just able to transcend the density. But you still must die in order to start another core vibration. In other words, you don't consciously lay out your new genetic code and gather material from the cosmos because that degree of understanding of the body and mind is not within awareness. It's not even within the understanding of 4D which is millions of years more advanced in practice.

Thanks. What you say though does seem to me to contradict this:

34.2 Questioner: Thank you very much. We’ll start general questioning now. You stated at an earlier time that penetration of the eighth level or intelligent infinity level allows a mind/body/spirit complex to be harvested if it wishes at any time/space during the cycle. When this penetration of the eighth level occurs what does the entity who penetrates this experience? Can you tell me this?

Ra: I am Ra. The experience of each entity is unique in perception of intelligent infinity. Perceptions range from a limitless joy to a strong dedication to service to others while in the incarnated state. The entity which reaches intelligent infinity most often will perceive this experience as one of unspeakable profundity. However, it is not usual for the entity to immediately desire the cessation of the incarnation. Rather the desire to communicate or use this experience to aid others is extremely strong.

I must say that I do struggle at times with what you describe, perhaps due to a lack of formal science education.
I work with 'mental images', or maybe what you would term 'vague notions', so I can only attempt to put these into words that are probably not entirely suitable or particularly accurate.
My understanding is that the planet (system) is spiraling into an area of the cosmos where a sort of quantum superposition occurs, like a waveform collapse between space/time and time/space allowing the formation of photon 'molecules'. This new 'reality' allows the observer to experience both physical and zero point universes depending on awareness. This is what I feel the 'new age' idea about transitioning from 3d to 5d is all about,with 4d serving as the non-physical gateway.
In a sense the planet is 'walking the steps of light' and we, as sub-sub-sub logoi are the hitchhikers who get the chance to ascend along side.
I would like to hear your comments on that Ra quote in the context of what you wrote before.
Thanks again for your time.