(08-19-2013, 01:38 AM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote:Well yes, the potential connection exists within "mind".(08-18-2013, 10:04 PM)zenmaster Wrote:(08-18-2013, 09:31 PM)Sagittarius Wrote: we already see technology evolving towards maintaining constant connection with each other.Yeah, but is it a real connection or merely a means to share ideas complete with layers of persona which is a false face of self? http://news.discovery.com/human/psycholo...130814.htm
I do not see our current technology doing anything to promote genuine connection which necessarily requires development of personality to a certain level. How do our communication mechanisms reveal our natures to ourselves for acceptance? Sharing info certainly makes us think, but about what and to what end?
Are you supposing that there exists a potential for connection as you are defining it?
(08-19-2013, 01:38 AM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote: If yes, do you suppose that this potential, being an aspect of self, could be expressed through technology, an extension of self? Perhaps the technology highlighted in OP?The actual connection is of mind. The technology provides cues or some focus of thought.
(08-19-2013, 01:38 AM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote: If not, then isn't our current technology just as useful as any other extension of self for exploring the self and ultimately connecting? A tool whose potential is not fully recognized because our social mind simply is not at that stage of development yet.The social mind as the "planetary mind" has already made something of that stage's vibration, the potential access has existed for a long time. The limitation really is the personal mind.
(08-19-2013, 01:38 AM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote:It's an honest expression of selfhood. That is, the "you" that is present and conscious in that moment of communication. If that level is not of the blue-ray or higher vibration, there is no transpersonal or intersubjective communication possible. It is the identity of self - the "ego" - still being reflected back on itself for outward expression. Since it has not transcended itself, it is not fully present and not fully itself - that is, not fully supported by sufficiently actualized (balanced) yellow and green ray.(08-19-2013, 12:11 AM)zenmaster Wrote: Why is the "blue-ray" vibration synonymous with both communication and honesty? Is communication and honesty actually the same thing? And if that is the case, then can you truly have one without the other?
Do you have thoughts on these questions?
It is something I have been contemplating lately.
Take a scenario where a person is very angry. If they shout "I'm angry!" and then punch you in the face, they're honestly communicating how they are feeling. At that moment their identity is anger and the anger was expressed.
(08-19-2013, 12:11 AM)zenmaster Wrote: Is this indicative of a blue ray activation through honesty?No.
(08-19-2013, 01:38 AM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote: I have to think that it is not, because someone could be angry and express it honestly without have activated the heart chakra which is prerequisite to potential blue activation. And even if green is active, blue requires honesty to activate. Honesty here cannot mean honesty in the sense of the angry person clearly communicating their anger, because plenty of people do that, yet honesty is something which is supposedly difficult for us even after green activation.It's difficult at that early point, because green activation (which is the result of yellow balancing) is not remotely the same as green balancing.
(08-19-2013, 01:38 AM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote: I think that the linkage of blue ray, honesty, and communication lays in the fact that blue ray is that realization of the true nature of the self being communicated. Ra says the blue ray is free communication with the self and with other-self. If there is no honest communication of the self (inward realization) then there can be no honest communication to other-self (outward realization) This outer realization only being possible when looking inward, the communication of anger is a completely outward expression, lacking the honest communication of inner perception.Or in other words, it's a completely inward expression communicated outward. That's what a "projection" is, and why anger epitomizes the projection.
(08-19-2013, 01:38 AM)Bring4th_Austin Wrote: The nature of blue ray is also outgoing as well as inpouring. I assume that the inpouring and outgoing must be balanced, and the honest expression of anger ignores incoming communication. Inpouring seems to require willingness and ability to integrate other's expressions of self within our own self.It's just being able to make space for sharing your mind. With blue-ray communication, there can be no "ego" as a dominating, hoping, fearing, controlling seat of consciousness.
Essentially, I think "honest communication" in the blue ray sense is that communication of the true nature of self we have found as we gaze inward wielding acceptance.
(08-19-2013, 02:38 AM)Sagittarius Wrote: Yeh I would say a self who would express there honest communication of anger with violence is accessing say the red ray sub plane of blue possibly. The key term Ra uses I think is the emphasis on free communication. Someone who is blue ray activated can give and receive information through communication without any of the unbalanced lenses through the lower chakra's. I.e there is no price with the information no fractured intention.
So no I don't think communication and honesty are the same thing. For example the above person can communicate but there is no honesty with true self in the communication thus it is distorted in that incomplete red ray/blue ray.
If one is talking into a mirror, it is not possible for one to be on the "same page" with another person. They are necessarily not seeing nor expressing a significant portion of their underlying idea, because the part of themselves which would be capable of doing that simply does not exist yet. So if the idea is unconscious, and the expression of the idea is unconscious, then so is the nature of the communication. If one thinks of an idea and there is zero possibility it can be miscommunicated or distorted, that is the nature of blue-ray vibration.