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    07-26-2013, 08:12 PM
    (07-26-2013, 01:46 PM)xise Wrote: Here's a Q'uo Channeling from 2010 on the subject:

    Quote:Saturday Meditation

    October 16, 2010

    Jim: The question this evening, Q’uo, [from G], is, “Few systems of thought confer as much responsibility on the individual entity as the Law of One does. In that philosophy, the individual is completely responsible for its own choices and its experience no matter how uninformed these choices and its viewpoint may be. It is in that vein that we wish to examine the concept of responsibility through both the general and focused lens. In general, to what extent is the positively-oriented entity responsible for indirectly participating in activities which result in pain and suffering for others? There are many specific ways to approach the basic underlying principle of responsibility, including purchasing gasoline, using products which harm the environment, supporting or not resisting governments which funnel the energy of their people into nefarious ends, etc.

    We would like to select one particular instance of this principle for our focus. It is understood among many spiritual seekers that except in cases of humane slaughter our second-density friends are routinely mistreated and abused in the process of converting their physical bodies into our meat foodstuffs. Specifically then, to what extent is the positively-oriented entity responsible for the suffering of second-density creatures when purchasing and consuming the meat of these animals?

    (Carla channeling)

    We are those of the principle of Q’uo. Greetings in the love and in the light of the one infinite Creator, in whose service we come to you this evening. It is a pleasure and a privilege to be called to this group and to be a part of this circle of seeking. We are delighted to speak with you about responsibility....

    And in each density, each experience, each day and each hour, you are responsible for yourself, for your choices, for your intentions and for your desires....

    You asked specifically about the responsibility that you have for what you eat. For those who have not yet conceived of the possibility of choices in this area, their responsibility is minimal. One cannot make choices if one is ignorant of the choices. Therefore, the question that you asked is on behalf of those who have awakened to the fact that all is one. You are one with the clouds and the rain, the fire that warms the hearth, the water within your body and in all of the bodies of water within the planet.

    You are one with the birds, the animals, flowers, plants, rocks, each other and the Creator.

    There is only one thing in the universe and that is love.

    Indeed, you are seeking at this time to reduce the level of distortion in your thinking so that you may become more and more aware of that consciousness that lies closer to you than breathing, nearer than your hands and feet: the consciousness of unconditional love that is your true nature.

    Now, how shall an entity whose consciousness is that of pure love feed its body? We notice that you focus upon meat and the eating of it as the arena of choice. And before we address that question we would note that not only the animals but the plants also are growing within the creation of the Father, blooming and dying at a rhythm of their own. In a very real way, it is as much of an offense, one may say, to pluck a bean or dig a potato from the ground as it is to slaughter an animal, for you have interrupted the cycle of its life and its dancing with the Creator as you do so. But to focus upon this is to digress from your query. And so we would focus upon the slaughter of animals and the responsibility that an entity has if he chooses to eat meat.

    One valid choice that many of those who have awakened have made is not to eat meat and to find ways to furnish the body with the protein that meat offers by eating other substances, such as legumes, which contain protein. [1]

    Another choice that an awakened entity has, as the questioner said, is to move to the purchase only of meats that have been humanely slaughtered. There are two sources of such meats that are generally available to entities within a reasonable amount of distance from where they live. One is to seek out a kosher store [2] which sells meat, knowing that the priests of that religion have treated animals well and have slaughtered them in a sacred ritual which is taken most seriously by those priests.

    The other is to find a biodynamic source where the same feeling of sacredness surrounds the appreciation of mammals while they live and the humane slaughter of them when it is time for them to feed their humans.

    And as the one known as J said, barring those choices, there is always the metaphysically correct choice of relating to the animal in that timeless condition which is called “metaphysical time” wherein all things occur simultaneously, so that you are able to contact any animal, before you eat it, no matter how abused or how slaughtered. And as you contact this animal, you express your love of this animal and your appreciation for all that the animal has gone through in order to give you its energy, its consciousness, such as it is, and its love, which is very real. So, in praise, prayer and thanksgiving you heal the division between you and the meat and the animal from which that meat came.

    And as you do this to your meat, dancing with the meat, becoming one with the meat, you are in effect lifting that energy to the infinite Creator, blessing it and healing all that has gone before, for the animal and for you.


    Indeed, we would note that it is not only the eating of meat, but every single action undertaken by you, no matter how humble or small, that has the capability and potentiality of becoming sacred, so that you at all times are giving thanks, offering praise, and opening to the experiences that have been given to you to walk in.

    That being said, you gotta do research about your kosher meat as well: http://www.farmforward.com/features/kosh...estigation

    Quote:UPDATE (June 30, 2011): Farm Forward has verified that the Israeli chief rabbinate has not followed up on its promise to stop certifying as kosher meat from animals killed using the painful shackle and hoist method in South American slaughterhouses. We alerted Israeli activists to this lack of progress last month, resulting in this article in the premier Israeli newspaper, Haaretz. “The horrible deaths received by animals in these South American slaughterhouses is the most egregious animal welfare problem in kosher slaughter today,” explains Farm Forward founder Aaron Gross. Farm Forward remains committed to working with the vast majority of American and Israeli Jews who, in the best spirit of the Abrahamic religions’ tradition of compassion for animals, want to see this cruelty ended. Gross continues, “Farm Forward has a special commitment to working with religious communities of all kinds that want to address the problems of factory farming in ways specific to each community. Factory farming is not an ethical problem relevant only to secular society. It is a problem for any person of faith who believes animals are more than mere things.”

    UPDATE (June 23, 2010): Roughly a month after the release of PETA's undercover investigation, Ashkenazi Chief Rabbi Yona Metzger announced that starting in 2011 he will no longer certify as kosher animals killed in slaughterhouses that use the widely condemned "shackle and hoist" slaughter method. Today roughly 80% of Israel's kosher meat imports come from South American slaughterhouses that use shackle and hoist. The same slaughterhouses presently supply the majority of America's kosher beef as well. Farm Forward commends the Chief Rabbi on his decision and is cautiously optimistic that the tremendous pressure his actions have created will lead to the end of shackle and hoist in kosher slaughter globally. We will continue our diplomatic efforts to end shackle and hoist until we can report that the practice has stopped.

    Thanks for sharing. It's rare that I don't resonate with a Q'uo channeling. This is one of those times. Pablisimo addressed this particular quote quote well, and I agree with him 100%. Here is his response to this:

    http://www.bring4th.org/forums/showthrea...1#pid23111

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