05-30-2013, 12:25 AM
(05-29-2013, 11:05 PM)rie Wrote: Overthrow authority to become the new authority - that's like having a political/idealogical revolution that just perpetuates the same crap w/ new sets of values for society. New sets of shoulds and shouldn'ts w/o learning the green meme lessons sufficiently to go onto next stage of yellow and turquoise.
A 'mature' green meme could begin to appreciate the complexity and multiplicity of perspectives and ways of life - thus, should and should not is understood by being contextually sensitive.
There's always "context", but what such context may include depends on what's capable of being accepted. In green vMeme, subjective (interior) experience has a brand-new luster, so the "context" is that everything is compared against the infinite potential suggested by, but not appreciated by, an idealogy of relativism. But wait, there is nothing from actual experiential knowledge, to balance or back up such feeling-based evaluation, so the imbalance inevitably leads to the "as-if", zealot, escapist pathologies we see on these forums. What happens later in yellow, is that subjective context balances out as it is slowly matched with a working, world-view objective system (limits are now in place). time, inward, we, feeling, yin moves to space, outward, me, thinking, yang.
(05-29-2013, 11:05 PM)rie Wrote: So instead of saying should or shouldn't, people may say, well it depends on the situation. I would think green meme people may begin to handle more ambiguity (grey areas) and complexity of situation, but not fully see or understand the complexity until yellow meme (systemic thinking).Yes, it's not possible to contextualize the feeling-derived evaluations or even understand that such a thing is possible until yellow meme. Meanwhile, 4D must equate to all of the vague, idealized potentials suggested by green valuing.
(05-29-2013, 11:05 PM)rie Wrote: I think mean green meme have one tool - a hammer- so everything looks like a nail that needs to be hammered down (dogmatic, anti-authoritarian).It's merely a new recognition of how (their own) authoritative patterning has effectively denied a certain degree of freedom. As a new, less-distorted, way is apprehended, the internal structure must be changed to accommodate. So those groups and individuals which may be expressing quite healthy authority in blue get to be targets of projection.
(05-29-2013, 11:05 PM)rie Wrote: A mature greek meme has more tools - so they are able to assess situations and use more appropriate tools, perhaps?I think honesty is available to keep the idealogy in check, throughout green. But the powerful appeal to certain, selective infinite possibilities which reflect personal values will often override that check. I guess healthy green draws from a "context" which has a certain degree of balance due to acceptance.
(05-29-2013, 11:05 PM)rie Wrote: By yellow, society has a kaleidoscope to view itself as an organism w/ parts within it working in some kind of organized pattern. I think Dr. Beck said yellow was 'right brain w/ data' and turquoise was 'left brain w/ feelings'. Reminds me of the balance btwn intuition and rational mind that Ra talked about (49.4).In the 3D subdensities, there does seem to be an oscillation between temporal (inner) and spatial (outer) perspectives which is reflected by a bias in the evaluating psychological faculty. My guess is that turquoise, and not green, would be the first subdensity of "4D", only because of 1) the knowledge of self required to make "the choice" would be actualized by then and 2) the catalyst available from orange and yellow vibrations would not be quite the compelling learning tool by then.