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    05-13-2013, 11:09 PM (This post was last modified: 05-13-2013, 11:18 PM by GentleReckoning.)
    (03-27-2013, 04:34 PM)hogey11 Wrote:
    Quote:To me it seems you contradict yourself, on one hand it's a "goal" set by some sub-Logos on the other hand change depends on personal change.

    All is one, my friend. All work in concert with another on behalf of the One Infinite Creator.

    I don't mean to characterize the sub-logos as having goals or being in control in any way. According to Ra, the reason earth will become a 4D positive planet is because it was decided as much by the Council of Saturn, or by the beings who abide in the realms above our own. In terms of negative polarization on earth, we have to remember there have only been a handful of harvestable STS entities on this planet over the entire 3D cycle, and we're talking about the baddest mofos that ever lived. Genghis Khan was apparently one of these; today, 1 in 200 men are direct descendants of him due to his rape and pillage copulation habits; he was known to make his enemies eat their own body parts under his capitivity; he nearly took over the entire known world at one point. This is a harvestable STS entity. Who fits that bill today? If any, there can only be a few. Why then would we argue that Earth might turn 4D negative when there are only a handful of entities from our history that could ever steer it that way in the first place? We are 'slated' to become 4D positive because our playground doesn't support that level of progression for negative STS entities in the first place. We will become either a 4D+ society, or the planet will experience a cataclysm in protest of us and our vibrational energies (if we go by Ra's teachings). 4D- is just not in the cards for Planet Earth.

    You underestimate how simple it would be to harvest STS. Potentially, one could simply view every other self as a potential source power. Simply lie whenever you won't get caught. Manipulate people to serve you by allowing them to care about you. Fake love so that they are willing to give you more. Cheat as often as you safely can, steal as often as you safely can. Maintain your physical body so that you can intimidate and lead others more easily.

    You don't even need to cause that much harm. While I was clearing out some stuff, I went through a 2-3 hour period of attempting to harvest sts. It's pretty straightforward.

    If your anger at life is greater than your love for others, it's all the motivation you need. If you're a psychopath, and can't empathize (feel love) for others, it's probably the easiest thing in the world.

    (03-31-2013, 02:57 PM)xise Wrote:
    (03-31-2013, 12:00 PM)zenmaster Wrote: Patterns of personal or collective mind may or may not resonate with the non-personal, local vibratory frequency. The earth, as "planetary mind" or logos, is wholly dependent upon its inhabitants in order to have anything meaningful expressed about provided "4D" frequencies. One can't become congruent with that frequency range without having established a prior integration of self up to that range.

    It seems that many people greatly misunderstand what this integration entails. A higher "core" vibration comes from integrating aspects of self in this human condition - i.e. personal, social, psychological - and not from working directly on doing exercises to manipulate and experience circumstantial chakra energies. That is, an awareness of the flow of energies does nothing to increase awareness about self (and thus prepare self for higher vibration) except to signal to awareness that a certain confronted condition is not in balance.

    Agreed. The chakras are a feedback system. Working on them directly seems much less useful then balancing the concepts they entail.

    Working on the chakras can manifest the distortions (or highlight them for you) in your environment so that you can clear them.

    I wonder if you could 'energize' a chakra if you knew that you were going to be facing a certain type of catalyst that you were having trouble choosing love through. That might be one of the more useful applications to simple chakra work.

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    I think the shocker will be that 4th density isn't cupcakes and rainbows... - by Adonai One - 03-23-2013, 02:22 AM
    RE: I think the shocker will be that 4th density isn't cupcakes and rainbows... - by We are God - 03-23-2013, 02:34 AM
    RE: I think the shocker will be that 4th density isn't cupcakes and rainbows... - by anagogy - 03-23-2013, 03:33 AM
    RE: I think the shocker will be that 4th density isn't cupcakes and rainbows... - by Adonai One - 03-23-2013, 03:39 AM
    RE: I think the shocker will be that 4th density isn't cupcakes and rainbows... - by greywolf - 03-23-2013, 03:59 AM
    RE: I think the shocker will be that 4th density isn't cupcakes and rainbows... - by Hototo - 03-23-2013, 05:53 AM
    RE: I think the shocker will be that 4th density isn't cupcakes and rainbows... - by greywolf - 03-23-2013, 07:38 AM
    RE: I think the shocker will be that 4th density isn't cupcakes and rainbows... - by hogey11 - 03-26-2013, 06:40 PM
    RE: I think the shocker will be that 4th density isn't cupcakes and rainbows... - by Horuseus - 03-26-2013, 06:47 PM
    RE: I think the shocker will be that 4th density isn't cupcakes and rainbows... - by greywolf - 03-27-2013, 05:00 AM
    RE: I think the shocker will be that 4th density isn't cupcakes and rainbows... - by hogey11 - 03-27-2013, 11:52 AM
    RE: I think the shocker will be that 4th density isn't cupcakes and rainbows... - by greywolf - 03-27-2013, 12:30 PM
    RE: I think the shocker will be that 4th density isn't cupcakes and rainbows... - by hogey11 - 03-27-2013, 01:46 PM
    RE: I think the shocker will be that 4th density isn't cupcakes and rainbows... - by greywolf - 03-27-2013, 02:13 PM
    RE: I think the shocker will be that 4th density isn't cupcakes and rainbows... - by darklight - 03-31-2013, 07:28 AM
    RE: I think the shocker will be that 4th density isn't cupcakes and rainbows... - by hogey11 - 03-31-2013, 11:30 AM
    RE: I think the shocker will be that 4th density isn't cupcakes and rainbows... - by hogey11 - 03-27-2013, 04:34 PM
    RE: I think the shocker will be that 4th density isn't cupcakes and rainbows... - by Bring4th_Austin - 03-27-2013, 07:59 PM
    RE: I think the shocker will be that 4th density isn't cupcakes and rainbows... - by hogey11 - 03-27-2013, 10:23 PM
    RE: I think the shocker will be that 4th density isn't cupcakes and rainbows... - by GentleReckoning - 05-13-2013, 11:09 PM
    RE: I think the shocker will be that 4th density isn't cupcakes and rainbows... - by greywolf - 03-27-2013, 05:20 PM
    RE: I think the shocker will be that 4th density isn't cupcakes and rainbows... - by hogey11 - 03-27-2013, 05:59 PM
    RE: I think the shocker will be that 4th density isn't cupcakes and rainbows... - by Hototo - 03-27-2013, 05:42 PM
    RE: I think the shocker will be that 4th density isn't cupcakes and rainbows... - by reeay - 03-27-2013, 07:46 PM
    RE: I think the shocker will be that 4th density isn't cupcakes and rainbows... - by zenmaster - 03-28-2013, 12:41 AM
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    RE: I think the shocker will be that 4th density isn't cupcakes and rainbows... - by zenmaster - 03-28-2013, 08:50 PM
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    RE: I think the shocker will be that 4th density isn't cupcakes and rainbows... - by hogey11 - 03-28-2013, 11:53 PM
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    RE: I think the shocker will be that 4th density isn't cupcakes and rainbows... - by Adonai One - 03-29-2013, 12:58 AM
    RE: I think the shocker will be that 4th density isn't cupcakes and rainbows... - by hogey11 - 03-29-2013, 11:09 AM
    RE: I think the shocker will be that 4th density isn't cupcakes and rainbows... - by zenmaster - 03-31-2013, 12:00 PM
    RE: I think the shocker will be that 4th density isn't cupcakes and rainbows... - by xise - 03-31-2013, 02:57 PM
    RE: I think the shocker will be that 4th density isn't cupcakes and rainbows... - by Peregrinus - 04-02-2013, 12:20 AM
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    RE: I think the shocker will be that 4th density isn't cupcakes and rainbows... - by Adonai One - 04-16-2013, 07:33 PM
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