(05-05-2013, 07:03 PM)Sagittarius Wrote:Sure, in some of the author's sources. It's useful to understand archetypal influences, but remember the whole point is to reveal distortions. Distortions are ultimately revealed through awareness of imbalance. So ideally, they would be presented in a balanced manner (even if distorted by cultural conventions). So when they are presented in that limited, selective manner it necessarily presents a window more to the the author's personal issues rather than a more generic template of the collective (planetary) influences. Nevertheless, they are archetypes and the examples do provide insight into their function.(05-05-2013, 09:49 AM)zenmaster Wrote: A good start, but suggests an awful lot of unresearched material with rather vague apprehensions. Goes off onto suspicious tangents (gender roles, manipulation) as if placing particular focus on the author's personal issues he was trying to learn about.
Have you come across anything similar to this ?
It's interesting that he picked a periodic table (increasing levels of development) to express them rather than something like a circle, as they exist and function at the same ontological level as far as I can tell.
(05-05-2013, 07:41 PM)JustLikeYou Wrote:Yes but once you start taking "gender" as social roles, no. It's no longer the archetype but a complex derivative with selective association. i.e. finding yin/yang is like finding faces in cloud formations. For shadow archetypes, they do have manipulative undertones. But guess what, those are not primary to the archetype - i.e. you can associate passive/aggressive behavior to any of them. It begs the question.zenmaster Wrote:Goes off onto suspicious tangents (gender roles, manipulation) as if placing particular focus on the author's personal issues he was trying to learn about.
Archetypes are what gender roles are based on. And shadow archetypes typically have manipulative undertones.