02-10-2009, 03:28 AM
Well said Dear Monica. Thank you for joining in. I would be curious to pursue the question, and your thoughts if I may?
This may all be good and well as regards the one going "puff", this as relates to his understanding, or belief, if not self-delude desire for same. But, what of his fellow man, who, for whatever reasons, is not accorded the grace of this knowledge, and who surely must die a real and very experiential death, and as a result perhaps somewhat less staid and accepting, if not altogether terrifying, inclusive of his loved ones, children, and neighbor. What does this say about such a one's inner psychology as regards their compassion for others, if not just an expectancy as you correctly deduce, but perhaps even an elitism of sorts for themselves?
May it not suggest a selfishness of sorts as though a "New Age Spiritual Survivalist" mentality, if you will allow the phrase?
I submit that it may in fact be fear, more than fact, that drives this, as there are no facts.
Assuming hypothetically that Quo is correct, and that Ra speaks to 700 years of transition (irrespective of one interpretation as an exercise vs another) and that something surely will/is happening irrespectively, but that it may preclude death, then heading to the mountains for nothing to happen is akin to heading for the head space of 2012 that something will. The psychology of both resonate the same to a degree.The poles shifting resulting in all the bad ones falling off to leave us good ones here, or that the space brothers might take us off in their star-ships rescuing us, or the Christian rapture as you also share, resonates with exactly the same mythos as a 3D death to 4D instant transition. It strikes me that the underlying mythos of the end being near resonates always as the same...exactly the same.
Surely it says something? It also seems to be very much a "me-oriented" philosophy verses the poor soul "Left Behind" as the Christian Book and movie are entitled.
Loving the participation and the willingness to be bold enough to look at ourselves,
Q
(02-10-2009, 12:58 AM)Bring4th_Monica Wrote: In all fairness, my understanding of those adhering to the 'spontaneous' theory is that they expect to be transported/uplifted/ascended/transmuted or by some other such mechanism into 4D reality, without the inconvenience of death of the physical vehicle. If anything, they are seeking to avoid death, in favor of the transformation of the 3D vehicle.
This may all be good and well as regards the one going "puff", this as relates to his understanding, or belief, if not self-delude desire for same. But, what of his fellow man, who, for whatever reasons, is not accorded the grace of this knowledge, and who surely must die a real and very experiential death, and as a result perhaps somewhat less staid and accepting, if not altogether terrifying, inclusive of his loved ones, children, and neighbor. What does this say about such a one's inner psychology as regards their compassion for others, if not just an expectancy as you correctly deduce, but perhaps even an elitism of sorts for themselves?
May it not suggest a selfishness of sorts as though a "New Age Spiritual Survivalist" mentality, if you will allow the phrase?
I submit that it may in fact be fear, more than fact, that drives this, as there are no facts.
Assuming hypothetically that Quo is correct, and that Ra speaks to 700 years of transition (irrespective of one interpretation as an exercise vs another) and that something surely will/is happening irrespectively, but that it may preclude death, then heading to the mountains for nothing to happen is akin to heading for the head space of 2012 that something will. The psychology of both resonate the same to a degree.The poles shifting resulting in all the bad ones falling off to leave us good ones here, or that the space brothers might take us off in their star-ships rescuing us, or the Christian rapture as you also share, resonates with exactly the same mythos as a 3D death to 4D instant transition. It strikes me that the underlying mythos of the end being near resonates always as the same...exactly the same.
Surely it says something? It also seems to be very much a "me-oriented" philosophy verses the poor soul "Left Behind" as the Christian Book and movie are entitled.
Loving the participation and the willingness to be bold enough to look at ourselves,
Q