The Sun is Not What we We Have Been Told....

[Monica]

some kind of point with that? If you bothered to read einstein!

Hey, chill! Not everyone can be as smart as you, to actually read the complete works of the world's most celebrated scientist! Some of us have to be content with the occasional cool quotes!

Or, we might content ourselves with scientists like Nassim Haramein, who make physics fun, while they explain the solutions to Einstein's formerly unsolved equations.

You'd know th at free invention was essential for him.

Sorry, guilty as charged! I don't even know what you mean by 'free invention.' Care to educate me or should I google it?

many if not most, embrace intuition. The knowledge framework is the box, not the perception faculty.

They give lip service to it but they have their own biases, just as we all do. Surely you aren't suggesting that scientists are free of distortions in their perceptions?

Also, if knowledge were the box, then they'd be neutral to new, 'unproven' information, rather than cynical. Healthy skepticism is fine, but most go beyond skepticism and into cynicism or even closed-mindedness. A scientist cannot expand his box if it's locked up by a negative view of everything outside the box. At the very least, the realm outside the box should be viewed with interest and curiosity!

Name one scientist that ridicules intuition. More bullshit.

What I said was this: unfortunately, many who claim to be using the scientific method negate, dismiss, or even ridicule intuition, imagination, and anything else that doesn't fit into their already-established box.

Name one? That's easy, if I broaden the request to include my original statement, which wasn't just about intuition but about anything outside their established box.

The entire quackwatch.com team. Most mainstream MDs. Dr. Mercola. Dr. Weil.

Oops, those are MDs. Sorry! OK scientists...

The chem1 guy. Though I doubt if he's really a scientist, since he doesn't even know the difference between alkaline and acidic. He's probably just a prop. So I'm not sure he counts.

Carl Sagan. I have a lot of respect for Carl, but he poo-pooed crop circles when he clearly hadn't fully investigated them. Granted, he died before the really elaborate ones formed, but still, he showed clear bias.

ALL of the scientists who participated in the 911 Commission. They either had blinders on, or allowed themselves to be bought off. And the ones who continue to promote the lies of 911, ignoring the irrefutable evidence for controlled demolition of all THREE towers.

ALL of the scientists who routinely scoff at alternative treatments such as homeopathy, psychic phenomena, UFOs, etc. just because they haven't yet been explained or accepted by the mainstream.

it's same photons in space as it is in the atmosphere.

You didn't answer my question. You just stated what appears to be a fact to you, but it doesn't address the question. Photons might be the same, but that doesn't mean we see them the same.

At any rate, even if you are a scientist, it's still all just theory, unless you've actually been up in space and report back. And even then, being that the so-called 'experts' in various fields have been known to lie to the public for political reasons, then we, the ignorant masses, cannot be certain that it's true.

This forum is a disservice when spreading bullshit and giving any credence to bullshit. Why would people want to learn from a place that promotes disinfo?

Hmmm...can you define bullshit? How does one recognize bullshit?